David Horgan

I love best price question . car £7,995 Best price is £8,495 that's a much better Price What they don't understand is, I'm serious too So Joshuagomes I hope your heading my way this week QUALITY is REMEMBERED long after PRICE is forgotten , remember that phrase well young fella Had one cheeky twat ask me if he could use the ramp once , Told him its £500 an hour or part there of +vat . Halfords and a push bike lad , your heading for disaster wanting something for nothing buying cars on the cheap . Only shitters , get discounted just remember that

I feel sorry for this guy . Bought a Q5 from a guy down south of us and bought it to us for a problem with it cutting out . Injectors were leaking , turbo was shagged , auto box jumping and many other faults we found when it was on site , He spent a fortune with us over a few months we even found out it had a different engine , must of been a moon miles one . Anyway we prompted him to sell it , which he duly did , swapped it for a Caravelle thing with the BI turbo 180 diesel , edition 25 , if you like fancy vans its a nice thing . This morning its in for service , got oil light on , its a fecked engine , yes the bi turbos are shite we know , its the next best thing to a BP oil tanker disaster , oils like grey putty . Wants it serviced to go to France next week oops , going to be the bearer of bed news when he collects it later . Feel sorry for him , I really do . Hope he doesn't move into car trade as he cant choose a good one at all .

agree, it's not easy to shift traffic from autotrader, or any other site for that matter; then again I'm not in direct competition with them. Oh dear Autotrader will sell the car before your system gets it out for viewing , there lies the problem for every idea like this one that's ever come before us . many have tried and none are around anymore . That's why we are all sceptical of these ideas that people dream up . The above points from your post are worrying indeed , as your either going to try and sell cars on a site or your not , the words not easy , not in direct competition , not the ultimate goal , just consequential shows its not going to be a car selling site doesn't it . If your going to reinvent the wheel , you need to be a direct competitor , it needs to be the goal , you have to make it easy , you have to show you can shift traffic from other sites .There's so much more to Autotrader than you will ever know probably , certainly more to selling cars than you probably know too . You have to imagine Mr Mrs buyer one evening deciding to look for a new car , I want a Golf in blue for £6500 , they either know of Car guru from TV adds , Autotrader because their dad knew of it , or Ebay , then the search starts , Hey Ive found one 16 miles away lets ring /email , text , or visit on Friday after work . How the F##k they going to find you , and there lies the problem with 99% of us not wanting to pay you anything . Be 100% really but there's always one Sorry but that's the process , we have to accept it works that way , not cheap , but it works . Again though all the best with it .

now now That one nearly got to fighting talk

Price , prep , quality , location , wording , pics , where it advertised , how many in your area , model spec , colour of various makes, packages offered , lack of finance , lack of card terminal , restricted opening times , there's lots of reasons that beat the stocking loan question my friend as why a car doesn't sell quickly . Just remember this simple rule of business IF YOUR NOT BUSY , ITS YOUR OWN FAULT . simples if you think about it First hard lesson i ever learnt that was .

Convergence of buyers and sellers targeted demographics pools of subscribers Fancy phrases , mean nothing my friends , we see this type of thing every day of the week , I'm out , all the best though 10/10 I'm backing you there

Why pay them ?

If you don't work retail back , your going backwards . If you believe the trade rags , your going backwards . If you don't add enough profit your going backwards . If you buy Parkers you need to find work elsewhere .

Close Brothers are human beings when looking at deals , Deal with cars from new to 20 yrs , up to 130,000 miles , make quick decisions too for the customers which is good when they are sat waiting in front of you crossing fingers & toes and shaking with worried looks on their faces . 6/10 cars might be a stumbling block though , they usually like more than that to get more business , which i can see really . Try smiling nicely when the rep comes and tell em your looking at finance to attract more sales to expand .

Welcome BIGNIT . David

We sell cars for two sets of people , usually lumpy stuff at 20k agreement is really they end up slightly better off than selling it to the trade , eg CAP Clean I charge £1,200 + VAT commission £200 advert cost . £200 Valet costs Need the car with a new MOT and serviced , Doesn't sell its the advert costs and Prep costs that are charged , never not sold one though . Finance commissions and we usually get a nice px which we buy out of the deal . Have to be aware of all the comments above though as I seriously agree with everyone of them , only reason it works for us is the fact we know these people well and the cars too having usually serviced them from new . Right deal and there's some serious profit from nowhere ,

IF we are allowed a drop of petrol in the future I reckon we will have the red flag back at 4mph might be a robot instead of a man though or a drone , just how it all started . My old dad always said what goes round comes back round . Imagine in the future 100 yrs from now , some guy will find the black stuff to make petrol and a blue print of a petrol engine and off we go again . Just as the mines for battery minerals die out and someone invents the words Climate , Ozone , again . I'm starting to look at Horses again they are the future , Horses and cross bows

A ‘major discrepancy’ between official petrol car CO2 emissions and real-life on-road testing has led an independent emissions testing agency to warn of an emerging ‘petrolgate’ scandal. Official CO2 figures for petrol cars tested by the firm are ‘significantly underestimating the real-world emissions’. It suggests a 24 percent difference between official CO2 figures and real-world test Just read this , cant help it can they , the establishment is just asking to ruin the entire motor trade in my mind

This will go on and on wont it . No two of our business are the same , None of our expectations are even similar , stock differs , profits differ , speed of sales differ , burn rate differs , With this in mind its upto each and all to carve out a niche that suits . We will never be the same . I run two companies selling cars , they are very very different even with the same people on board . Auto trader works for us of that there's no doubt at all . Wont suit us all , and to think my system will suit another site is not going to happen , why we cant recommend AT or Not . We have to find what is best for us , build on it , try it , earn money , be happy , that's what matters . I can stock cars others cant sell , others stock cars i cant sell , " WHY " I'll never work that out either , and that's the same subject really isnt it . Long as you earn , Go for it .

I'm starting a collection of V8's to off set pollution savings . A tesla thought he'd got me the other day and i whooped his arse . Stopped at the next lights and opened his window saying "man alive whats in that ", "its noise is awesome" Tried me again and got a cars length on me in first 10 yds then BANG he was history again

Ask the wife permission , she may grant a reprieve in the weather , they do have ultimate control over the final sale conditions and that might extend to the weather . Good luck with the sale

Thats because they see it Wed online , think about it Thurs and wonder how to tell the wife , tell their mate on Friday in the pub working out what to say to wife , Forget on Sat because they had to much pop Friday night or had to take the kids to where ever because the wife said so . Sunday is the time to ask the wife or girlfriend , Then have to wait for permission to call you , That comes Monday , So they call Tuesday . See its SIMPLE

If its pictured in their description , Its yours as is .

Time for a new Government to change things yet before 2030 .

We will all , "Well those that's brave enough to stay " have to adapt , cant all be new cars can they , unless the dealers aren't going to let them go and that cant happen I wouldn't think Going to spook the techs of old , No gear boxes as such , No engines to fix , No leaks , No Spark plugs , EGR , Turbo , Starter Motor , No Cam Belts / Chains , Water pumps etc Just fuses , rewires , batteries , Connections , Volt losses , Dry Joints , Furring Up of Connections , Electric motors getting hot , Batteries Giving up altogether Funny noise , whining power plants , Chargers not working Keeping them all charged for test drives , Teaching all the customers how to drive the bloody things . can you imagine the calls , Mi cars not Charging , A; Have you plugged it in When does the cam belt need changing A ; now but it will be £300 + vat I cant hear it , A Well F##king Listen then .

We have sold a diesel 208 this morning , Free tax one and that's why she bought it , Sold a diesel Fiesta Zetec S last week because it was cheaper to insure . Not as much interest as a good few months ago now days , but not all people hate them . I hate the dirty beggars and would refuse to own one , but selling them is different isn't it , cant say we miss clogged up EGR's , turbo's , injectors , DPF's and the rest of the shite that goes wrong with oil burners though as we do have a lot less nowdays in stock . Only had a few Hybrids to sell , but my road we live on is filling up with rent a hybrid . Hate them too really , cant see the point , only do 32 mpg at best not 70 or a million mpg like they advertise , might be my flatout or stop driving style cos I'm used to 500+ bhp in my driver

What about a chrome wrap , Is that to costly ?

Friend of ours had a good auction question last year . arranges the customer to look at a BMW 645i , came to see it and said i was at Blackbushe BCA when this car was sold and saw what you paid for it so I'm going to make an offer with £500 profit in it for you "forgot the fees and transport by the way too " Friend said if you were there why didnt you buy it . Answer was , I wanted a dealer to prep it , MOT it and I've also got warranty rights so I can bring it back if it goes wrong because its in an auction and didn't want the risk Was told to GO away promptly

Never buy from auction personally I say But we do sell 90% of the publics part exchanges to auction as they are never looked after or cleaned properly , they also lie about servicing so they are not for retail . Sort of smacks it home that if your car is dirty , dented , and part serviced YOUR getting nothing for it .

Deep Breathe , Steady breathing , calms you down Then you can have a coffee and a good laugh