James Baggott 227 Posted October 4, 2020 Hello all Sorry I’ve been quiet. It’s been rather busy in the car dealer world and it turns out it’s not as simple to fill the internet as it is a magazine every month... Anyway, I’ve just been surfing the World Wide Web (I know, very dangerous) but it got me thinking (again, dangerous) about a feature on what used cars car dealers would avoid - so come on, hit me: what used car would you never ever buy and why? My starter for 10 - a Land Rover Freelander. Not only pretty rubbish but unbelievably unreliable by all accounts. What’s yours? Hope all well with you all too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lakeside 94 Posted October 4, 2020 Anything with the PSA/BMW Prince engine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me 615 Posted October 4, 2020 anything pretentious see,doesnt leave a lot maybe a dacia is the only make that does what it says on the badge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justina3 518 Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Lakeside said: Anything with the PSA/BMW Prince engine. Seconded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted October 5, 2020 13 hours ago, James Baggott said: Hello all Sorry I’ve been quiet. It’s been rather busy in the car dealer world and it turns out it’s not as simple to fill the internet as it is a magazine every month... Anyway, I’ve just been surfing the World Wide Web (I know, very dangerous) but it got me thinking (again, dangerous) about a feature on what used cars car dealers would avoid - so come on, hit me: what used car would you never ever buy and why? My starter for 10 - a Land Rover Freelander. Not only pretty rubbish but unbelievably unreliable by all accounts. What’s yours? Hope all well with you all too! VXRs, head gaskets, gearboxes, seats, modified, exhaust, turbo, everything goes on these lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey360 68 Posted October 5, 2020 All second hand cars, you'd be better off with a pushbike or walking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted October 5, 2020 Cars owned by people who think having an mot counts as a service! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkTVS 209 Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, NacMan said: VXRs, head gaskets, gearboxes, seats, modified, exhaust, turbo, everything goes on these lol I’m the opposite, my workshop guys can have anything fixed on these within a few hours! For me it is anything with the powershit gearbox from Ford or the majority of semi autos. As a general rule we try to avoid french cars and petrol 4 cylinder BMW’s. Subaru Impreza 2.5 turbos are also on the banned list. I love them to drive but the engines are chocolate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank Cannon 812 Posted October 5, 2020 Without stating the obvious.....but I will. .....anything VAG or Bavarian 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trade vet 702 Posted October 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, MarkTVS said: I’m the opposite, my workshop guys can have anything fixed on these within a few hours! For me it is anything with the powershit gearbox from Ford or the majority of semi autos. As a general rule we try to avoid french cars and petrol 4 cylinder BMW’s. Subaru Impreza 2.5 turbos are also on the banned list. I love them to drive but the engines are chocolate! Impreza’s ,you weren’t a ram raider were you Mark ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkTVS 209 Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, trade vet said: Impreza’s ,you weren’t a ram raider were you Mark ? Is that not what the old pajeros were for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trade vet 702 Posted October 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, MarkTVS said: Is that not what the old pajeros were for? Not in Newcastle where the locomotive,the electric lightbulb and ram raiding were invented and I think Impreza’s followed by XR3’s were the vehicles of choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ModernBagsofRubbish 3 Posted October 5, 2020 Eco Boost 1.0, Puretech, Powershifts, could carry on but three is enough for now, lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave2302 387 Posted October 5, 2020 Powershits are OK when you know exactly how to fix 'em, 9 times outta 10 it costs me less than a fiver in parts Top secret ...................... Shhhhhhhhh ...................... I don't mind tellin' ya'all now since I don't have the Transmission firm any more ................... New "Brushes" in the Servo Motors ...................... We used to get some right good earners outta them back in their hey day 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCS01 27 Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, MarkTVS said: Is that not what the old pajeros were for? God that brings back memories. Vauxhall In Sittingbourne people always kicking off when we gave them their value of their imported piece of junk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkTVS 209 Posted October 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, Dave2302 said: Powershits are OK when you know exactly how to fix 'em, 9 times outta 10 it costs me less than a fiver in parts Top secret ...................... Shhhhhhhhh ...................... I don't mind tellin' ya'all now since I don't have the Transmission firm any more ................... New "Brushes" in the Servo Motors ...................... We used to get some right good earners outta them back in their hey day Does that mean I can buy then and deliver them upto you to get fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ModernBagsofRubbish 3 Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dave2302 said: Powershits are OK when you know exactly how to fix 'em, 9 times outta 10 it costs me less than a fiver in parts Top secret ...................... Shhhhhhhhh ...................... I don't mind tellin' ya'all now since I don't have the Transmission firm any more ................... New "Brushes" in the Servo Motors ...................... We used to get some right good earners outta them back in their hey day It that the older ones, like they put in the Honda's, Peugeot's, Vauxhalls as Ive heard that info before but it was too late after the values had dropped Not sure if they were a Bosch electronics Edited October 5, 2020 by ModernBagsofRubbish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave2302 387 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) Bosch yes 16 hours ago, MarkTVS said: Does that mean I can buy then and deliver them upto you to get fixed I don't do Transmissions any more now, except my own, modern trans are effectively un rebuildable these days, due to everything inside being made from wet noodles ............ When you rebuild 'em, you rely on most of the "Hard Parts" being in good condition, and just replace stuff that wears like Synchros Forks and Bearings etc, or Clutches, Seals, Filters, Bushes etc in an auto But nowadays you build a box, give a guarantee, and a lot more % wise come back because some weak piece of shit that the stealerships won't sell separately has simply busted ................. Not worth it now, and it's only getting worse, I sold my share of the gearbox firm 14 years ago, my Partner sold up a couple years later, we had our hey day John Mackie is your guy in Glesga, but fuck me, I sent a customer to him, Audi with a Reverse Gear issue when hot ..................... £3500 later ....................... Edited October 6, 2020 by Dave2302 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted October 6, 2020 22 hours ago, MarkTVS said: I’m the opposite, my workshop guys can have anything fixed on these within a few hours! For me it is anything with the powershit gearbox from Ford or the majority of semi autos. As a general rule we try to avoid french cars and petrol 4 cylinder BMW’s. Subaru Impreza 2.5 turbos are also on the banned list. I love them to drive but the engines are chocolate! We have a few guys who can fix it all, its the running around that does it for us, we could go buy a clean perfectly running vehicle and make the same margin 19 hours ago, MarkTVS said: Is that not what the old pajeros were for? We have an old Pajero manual only one in the country bought it for a laugh lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OneCarefulOwner 4 Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/5/2020 at 4:59 PM, ModernBagsofRubbish said: Eco Boost 1.0, Puretech, Powershifts, could carry on but three is enough for now, lol Most of the stuff in the scrap yard is the above so I agree 100% with that. BMW's 2nd gear lately has been high on the list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petrol head 46 Posted October 14, 2020 Anything built in the US Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpenny 114 Posted October 14, 2020 JLR products Most French and Italian. Anything with stupid tiny turbo'd engine. Anything with an automated manual gearbox. Quite a lot of BMWs MGs In fact its easier to say what I do like - which is most Japanese stuff apart from Nissan (which is mostly Renault crap under the skin). Sell a Lexus, Toyota or a Honda and generally they don't come back. The Toyo/Lexus hybrids seem particularly problem free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank Cannon 812 Posted October 15, 2020 18 hours ago, petrol head said: Anything built in the US Really, please expand on that gem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petrol head 46 Posted October 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, Frank Cannon said: Really, please expand on that gem -CDJ - American built Ford, we have had a few Explorers (outside of the UK) which is on the face of it a great car, but the build quality is awful - I'm sure the GLE is pretty good now, but the 1st & 2nd generation M Class was a horror show @Frank Cannon does this answer your question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trade vet 702 Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, petrol head said: -CDJ - American built Ford, we have had a few Explorers (outside of the UK) which is on the face of it a great car, but the build quality is awful - I'm sure the GLE is pretty good now, but the 1st & 2nd generation M Class was a horror show @Frank Cannon does this answer your question? Ha Ha I doubt it.What about Honda,Toyota,Volvo,BMW,VW,Nissan and many more.Those F series trucks aren’t much good either !!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
