What used cars to avoid?

[Frank Cannon 812]

Add Volvo, Kia, Hyundai, Scooby

[LSP Vehicles 11]

5 hours ago, Frank Cannon said:

Add Volvo, Kia, Hyundai, Scooby

Is that in the to avoid list? I always thought Volvos were generally all round reliable car. Would Kia not be quite safe with their 7year/100,000 mile transferable warranty?

Just thought, might be good if we can collate a particular reason why to avoid certain cars? Would be quite as a knowledge base.

[Marc 6]

On 10/16/2020 at 9:49 PM, LSP Vehicles said:

Is that in the to avoid list? I always thought Volvos were generally all round reliable car. Would Kia not be quite safe with their 7year/100,000 mile transferable warranty?

Just thought, might be good if we can collate a particular reason why to avoid certain cars? Would be quite as a knowledge base.

Feel cheap ,Parts are expensive, fall to bits at end of warranty,pricey for what they are. depends what end of the market your at but on sub 5k stuff.. fiesta of any variant- slow seller and expensive . Any Ford with a 1.8 engine ...hmm  any car with a 1.8 engine. Any diesel unless lots of history and driven by someone who knows what gear to be in

[metcars 397]

So can we all agree on what car you ‘shouldn’t’ avoid?

[Frank Cannon 812]

On 10/16/2020 at 9:49 PM, LSP Vehicles said:

Is that in the to avoid list? I always thought Volvos were generally all round reliable car. Would Kia not be quite safe with their 7year/100,000 mile transferable warranty?

Just thought, might be good if we can collate a particular reason why to avoid certain cars? Would be quite as a knowledge base.

No, made in US

[A & S 20]

On 10/5/2020 at 5:55 PM, Dave2302 said:

Powershits are OK when you know exactly how to fix 'em, 9 times outta 10 it costs me less than a fiver in parts

Top secret ......................

Shhhhhhhhh ......................

I don't mind tellin' ya'all now since I don't have the Transmission firm any more ...................

New "Brushes" in the Servo Motors ......................

We used to get some right good earners outta them back in their hey day

Blickenhell, just had a power shift gearbox repaired on a focus one company quoted 2500 plus vat the other 2400 plus vat, just had it done last week....now you tell us.

[Dave2302 387]

Simples ..........................

Supply and demand

 

Invoice

 

Repairs to transmission £   50.00

 Specialist knowledge £  2450.00

                              Total £ 2500.00

Edited October 24, 2020 by Dave2302

[It's me 615]

6 hours ago, Dave2302 said:

Simples ..........................

Supply and demand

 

Invoice

 

Repairs to transmission £   50.00

 Specialist knowledge £  2450.00

                              Total £ 2500.00

I did this only yesterday by explaining anyone can own a hammer but do you know where to hit with it, the headgasket was only a tenner too

[Dave2302 387]

We earned a small fortune outta Powershits back in the day, which was around 14 years ago now, then I sold up and moved up here.

IDK if the modern ones are the same crappy idea these days

[Martin F 15]

Interesting video based on this exact subject.

Although like a lot of these surveys I wonder if it is weighted against volumes sold.

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2020 by Martin F

[David Horgan 564]

Ever seen TOWING CAR OF THE YEAR  Every one is the worst thing to own every year .

European car of the year award  who the fu##k wants one of those 

All are low selling cars that need a push in my opinion . All fixed I say , all fixed 

[Frank Cannon 812]

20 hours ago, David Horgan said:

Ever seen TOWING CAR OF THE YEAR  Every one is the worst thing to own every year .

European car of the year award  who the fu##k wants one of those 

All are low selling cars that need a push in my opinion . All fixed I say , all fixed 

Plus one, the ECOTY award is usually a kiss of death

[David Horgan 564]

1 hour ago, Frank Cannon said:

Plus one, the ECOTY award is usually a kiss of death

Oh I forgot that title LOL yes one to avoid like the plague or should i say virus these days  

[LSP Vehicles 11]

On 12/22/2020 at 10:03 AM, Martin F said:

Interesting video based on this exact subject.

Although like a lot of these surveys I wonder if it is weighted against volumes sold.

 

 

 

Only thing I'd disagree with is the Astra 1.9 diesel, especially in the Van range, solid engines, never had an issue with them and we shift them with no problem.

[Kes 7]

1 hour ago, LSP Vehicles said:

Only thing I'd disagree with is the Astra 1.9 diesel, especially in the Van range, solid engines, never had an issue with them and we shift them with no problem.

Yep, it was strange statement from such an experienced motor trader. I'm bit cautious when it comes to 1.3 or 1.7 vauxhall diesels but 1.9 is solid unit.

[It's me 615]

1 hour ago, Kes said:

Yep, it was strange statement from such an experienced motor trader. I'm bit cautious when it comes to 1.3 or 1.7 vauxhall diesels but 1.9 is solid unit.

I think he was given bad advice, its the gearboxes that are the issue not the donkeys

[Nevillec 11]

If you are buying vans I would avoid  the earlier  Renault Trafic, Vivaro, same van..... had lots hassle with these, to the point of I don't stock them any more

[David Ayers 171]

Vauxhall 1.9 150Bhp you have to watch out for the swirl flaps.

Vauxhall 1.3 cdti give turbo problems.

Both Fiat units I believe.

1.7 diesel in my experience is bulletproof 

On 12/23/2020 at 3:41 PM, Kes said:

Yep, it was strange statement from such an experienced motor trader. I'm bit cautious when it comes to 1.3 or 1.7 vauxhall diesels but 1.9 is solid unit.

Edited December 24, 2020 by David Ayers

[Halfpenny 114]

The Vaux 1.3 and 1.9 are GM-FIAT co-design from when the companies were supposedly merging. Also used by Suzuki and the 1.3 appeared in the Ford Ka.  The earlier ones (10-15 years old) did have some problems - we replaced a few 1.3 head gaskets. Later ones 2009-on seem pretty solid.

The 1.7's are an Isuzu engine, made in Poland, and pretty good in my experience. Honda also put this engine in the Civic.

[Kes 7]

1.3 diesel is misconception itself. 

[LSP Vehicles 11]

On 12/23/2020 at 4:58 PM, Nevillec said:

If you are buying vans I would avoid  the earlier  Renault Trafic, Vivaro, same van..... had lots hassle with these, to the point of I don't stock them any more

I've avoided them thus far, the Renault I would never touch, though I keep finding myself tempted by the Vivaro!! You see plenty of them on the road. How are the later ones? Anything specific to be aware of?

[MarkTVS 209]

1 hour ago, LSP Vehicles said:

I've avoided them thus far, the Renault I would never touch, though I keep finding myself tempted by the Vivaro!! You see plenty of them on the road. How are the later ones? Anything specific to be aware of?

The earlier traffics and vivaros from 53-06 used a Renault Laguna 1.9 engine were actually ok but from 06-13 they used a 2.0 which was bad for injector and timing chain issues.

the newer 15/16 plates don’t seem that bad tbh, certainly no worse than a transit 

[Lakeside 94]

8 hours ago, MarkTVS said:

The earlier traffics and vivaros from 53-06 used a Renault Laguna 1.9 engine were actually ok but from 06-13 they used a 2.0 which was bad for injector and timing chain issues.

the newer 15/16 plates don’t seem that bad tbh, certainly no worse than a transit 

I thought the 1.9’s were the Fiat JTD engine?

[Frank Cannon 812]

11 hours ago, MarkTVS said:

 

the newer 15/16 plates don’t seem that bad tbh, certainly no worse than a transit 

That's not much of a recommendation Mark

[BHM 994]

 Transits are dog shit