awc1000

could you tell us how many cars are on the platform for example today? and how many franchise vendors do you have on board? thanks in advance.

good chance of that i always thought there was a reason why AT changed, years ago you could call the girls in newton-le-willows and they were on the ball and helpful, they even listened and appreciated the feedback, they were even value for money back then....then they moved to manchester, a stones throw from where the hacienda club once stood, remember ringing once and talking to some office lad and telling him he must of found some left over happy pills, he was probably conceived in that club in 1990, whatever it was he was off his fookin head, clueless.

The cost would be irrelative if it worked, the problem is sites get sold then to recoup the investment they get diluted with shite vendors and become dumping grounds for sales managers who have fooked up a deal or managers who couldn't describe a pair of shoes properly. joined autotrade-mail in 2005 it had circa 1500 members by 2006 and it was unusual to have an issue with anyone on there, cost was £40 a month, when i left it in 2016 autotrader owned it and already increased membership to 2400 members at £90 a month, instead of managing it properly for the long run it was diluted in the quest for AT to claw back the outlay, its current status is - fooked and worthless. be interesting to see how this latest partnership pans out..

On a similar note, anyone thinking of / or using sytner be careful, anything decent is now going straight to their carshop outlets, beware of nice mileage stuff that looks good - it's probably failed a workshop pre-inspection badly.

25 mile range lol, i guess the appeal in a used truck must be the low road tax then?

Anyone on here doing any good with used plug-in hybrids?? I notice new sales are down due to the grant ending for plug-in hybrid, and no grant available for a power point due to it being a used vehicle.

As above, or if you have no service book - use the white sticker under all bonnets, sticker should start with C16 which denotes a u.k market car.

sounds like 8995?

ask your local sprayer or dent removal man, they will know who's trading locally, granted trade supplied cars are not as plentiful and not as cheap as they were, but they don't come with A- £200-500 indemnity, or B-£200 delivery by a stranger., and of course you get to drive them before deciding / paying. amazes me how new retailers set up but don't have an interest in the local trade supply, it's a bit like buying a freehouse pub and not knowing where the local brewing companys are, just saying...

If youv'e been in car sales for franchises you will already be intimate with the warranty rules and how to deal with customers, and as a group buyer you will know the difference between a winner and a shitter, and as you mention you are still enthusiastic about cars then i would say yes go for it, you are as a new member on here unusually qualified, good luck.

well 1981 was my first year, its 2019 now and i'm still trading cheapies out which come to me from main agents, why would you think things are different now? granted the oppurtunities of buying this way have shrunk, but there's still plenty of business to be had this way, and it's not just me who's still making a living this way.

depends where you are lol, most traders who are buying out the main agents have the problem of having to take all the cheapies away too, it can be a real pain finding someone to buy these on a regular basis.

Try building a relationship with a local trader who will look after you if you show willing to buy all his decent cheapies, they will bring them too you once they realise you are serious, you'll even get to drive them first before buying too, and they'll even give you a few bits on sale or return once they like you, if your running a busy car cleaning company you will not have time to go to auction, whatever you do don't buy cheapies at online auction, you'll end up a busy fool.

yep this one was the real deal, original in all respects, genuine and untouched, the fooked original tyres adding to its pedigree, i guess that's what justified the premium, nick whales silverstone drew £113k for a 6000miler in 2017, though that was an rs500, i remember getting stuck with one of these at £4k, although it was a ruff bag of shite that had seen some off road forays

phew 29995 ! you could by a nice amg car for that.

Iv'e never had a bad one, call me if you don't want any youv'e got

can i ask from which venues??

All as above, i would give an eco boost a swerve, if she insists on a 1.0 car try and put her into a late yaris, a great little car in 1.0 manual form.

I would encourage everyone to simply revert to manual listing as mentioned without giving reg number, and cover all number plates within photos with your company logo, then simply write "great value" within the strap line, sure it takes longer but the preset spec listed from giving a reg number for a specific car is often wrong anyway and one of the reasons why many AT values are miles out, example - AT valued a sl55amg as an sl500 and were wrong by £9k, don't forget we often have v5's that are not accurate to the specific model due to lazy franchise input from new and dvla blunders, AT are no different to this, at the end of the day AT are only coming up with values based on the info we give them, they certainly don't have a core of staff in the valuing department like CAP etc do. the less you tell them the less credibility they will have in valuing cars. It's nothing new, years ago when AT was only in magazine format we all had a few ghost cars priced within a page advert, it still goes on it's just in digital form now, certain supermarkets have been doing this for sometime now - no numberplate's on show, different cars in the picture, claimed higher spec etc, complaining is pointless so simply play the game until the loophole closes.

Yes probably, much catching up to do....it's strange though how each group would have no realistic chance of selling each others product in their own home market. yes as with others, its going to be interesting to see who's government backs its brands regarding cost and it's own labour force, could get a bit wobbly here with two thirds of production here already LHD export.

Both realise they cant survive on their strong home markets alone, guess they are after the r&d and various shared euro build platforms? one of the reasons vag group are winning, something like 10+ models now produced off the golf platform alone?

classic whats this rat business then? anyone elaborate?

There isn't plenty of new RHD stuff sitting around anymore these days apart from maybe the odd manufacturer , and that's the problem amazon would have - delivery lead time, it would be no better than the franchise network which due to most customers choosing spec can be painfully long, in short you can't sell what you havn't got, cars are quite different to general goods which you can sell online and honour a sale by using the accepted 28 day rule for delivery. It will be interesting to see if amazon have the appetite to buy a bulk order and if the manufacturer has the appetite to serve them in this manor, iv'e seen this before in the mid 90's when a certain hire car company ordered thousands of vauxhall cavaliers, many of which were sent straight to auction for a profit, at the time a disaster for the franchises and rv values. One possible swerve by the manufacturers is that they could produce a poverty model unavailable through the franchise network and exclusive to amazon, a price lead type unit similar to the dacia brand. Can't see it working for used cars, i wouldn't want to give amazon a share of the profit in a unit i have prepped, which is what i presume they will want, based on the fact they say they are going to be selling cars not hosting adverts.

Back in the 2007? there were a lot of cars damaged in the worst floods we had seen in our lifetime, the insurers at the time were looking at big loss's, many insurers foolishly attempted to repair some of these instead of paying out, it didn't work and many cars were littered around workshops for months before it was conceded it was a bad idea, since then if it's been in the water it's usually an instant write off. You mention £2k rebuild? any idea what that involved? a rewire alone on that car would be a huge cost an enough to write it off. If it's been payed out and has a marker you have no chance of having it being changed / overturned.

Another hijack job by AT, generic numbers instantly give those who don't fly straight the same credibility as those of us who have had a city business landline forever, so it's good news for those who sell shite from the side of the road, local buyers recognise long standing local landline numbers and that instil's confidence in ringing, exactly the same if i miss a call from a landline - i know where they have called from no matter what they say. There is zero need in having a third party involved between a buyer and seller no matter how small that hurdle is, and we are all capable of monitoring our own leads. There was talk sometime ago regarding AT gathering information via email contact with mutterings that they could then up sell a lead to others and that others were interested in buying your lead - ie supermarkets who spend more with AT, perhaps this new number system could be the start of something similar? who knows, but i do know that if a customer rings me direct then AT have no knowledge of this and hence zero chance of being involved in what is a private matter between a seller and buyer.