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It all depends on where the car was first born, if it was first registered in the u.k or e.u then it will be duty free as long as it's over 6 months old or 1000km's and in some cases as nick said has been there 12months plus and was not subject to vat reclaimed here. be careful though because if it was first registered in the channel islands then it will be due vat duty on it's current value when imported to the u.k, the exact reason why nice low mileage cars no longer come this way in the numbers like they did years ago. a

agree, there's a lot of bullshite involved regarding emissions, the carbon footprint on making a new electric vehicle alone far out weighs its savings opposed to buying a lumpy v8 which already exists as a used car' where's the incentive / levvy to chose an existing used car then??????? reminds me of a few years back when paul mcCartney decided to go green by buying a new lexus LS hybrid, then later after delivery was gutted when he was told that model is imported into the u.k via aircraft

news that as of monday all new electric cars must admit noise when travelling below 12mph for safety reasons, cue some spotty teenager making the next fortune from an app.

distance is no object if A the car is right, B your postcode is right, C you don't look shite on google earth lol.

A job in local garage is a good idea for a while, you will learn much and quickly, if you skip this step then set a limit on initial funding, too much funding starting out can lead to disaster, don't be tempted to spend / buy more if things aren't going well - instead revue why and act on it fast, only introduce more funding when your business model is working ie giving you a profit, you'll not be getting a redundancy out of this job so go careful with the money from your current one. good luck.

3k loss is painful but at least its gone now, it does seem unfair, however as mentioned if you are selling vehicles as a business you are liable, the issues and the price don't come into it unless - you sell to another trader or a person who will use the vehicle in line with certain business's, taxis etc. for the record what was the car / age / miles?

It contradicts if its just an eml light, if this were the case you would simply fix it and wouldn't be looking to sell it cheaper 'as is', if your aware it has underlying issues as stated then the eml light on is kind of irrelevant, hence selling on with an intermittent fault would be asking for trouble, If you have exhausted trying to fix the car and it owes you wrong then sorry to hear that but that's life, no point thinking a punter will be getting a bargain, he only will if you give him an opportunity to buy it and haunt you later, likely ending in refund. send it to auction, hope someone else takes it on, as soon as it's out of your life the sooner it will be out of your head, good luck with the next one.

good luck quoting the line - it is fit for purpose (the purpose being spares and repairs) and of satisfactory quality..... the reality is it will be fit for nothing, certainly not for being used for what it is - a car. the law may seem harsh on this subject but its there for a reason, and i'm of the opinion its a good law, selling cheap un-prepped cars as seen to the public is not good business and is touching on bad ethics, when all is said and done, the difference what you net on a banger between selling it to the trade or selling it publicly is simply not worth the hassle to a bona fide trader, the solution is - sell better cars, earn more money, sleep better.

yes you can describe a vehicle any way you want too, however as stated above you will still be liable for comebacks unless moved onto another trader and as pointed out the description is irrelevant, traders keep forgetting the fact that price has nothing to do with it. in summary - regardless of how much a vehicle costs if you are selling vehicles in the course of a business you are liable for the goods unless the buyer is using the goods inline with another business ie taxi, learner car, simple.

Less than his plane ticket here by the looks of things... your IBAN international banking codes are listed on your business banking statement, certainly are with the lloyds. that's not too bad, bit of a shocker the original omsp! looks like they are being fare and i guess have to be seen to be with it being electric, also worth noting is that about 4 years ago the irish announced a strange move, they suddenly decided that if a car had originated from the uk and had incurred vrt on entry too ireland - if it were to leave again /come back here you could claim back a proportion of the original entry vrt bill lol, madly the next owner here could do this and not necessarily the current irish owner / exporter, at the time it didn't justify doing on most stuff but certainly did on range rover / range sport for a while when they were still strong money here. worth knowing if a client wants to drive a p/ex this way in the future

that's not too bad, bit of a shocker the original omsp! looks like they are being fare and i guess have to be seen to be with it being electric, also worth noting is that about 4 years ago the irish announced a strange move, they suddenly decided that if a car had originated from the uk and had incurred vrt on entry too ireland - if it were to leave again /come back here you could claim back a proportion of the original entry vrt bill lol, madly the next owner here could do this and not necessarily the current irish owner / exporter, at the time it didn't justify doing on most stuff but certainly did on range rover / range sport for a while when they were still strong money here. worth knowing if a client wants to drive a p/ex this way in the future

any idea how much he's paying on that 44g/km car nick at 11800? just interested...

sounds all good dvla will tell you to hand over full v5 anyway, you probably don't need advising but be over fussy with your paperwork. even when he's paid and left there is one dodge which can still bite you, it's unlikely but can be common. sadly on top of the 11800 he's giving you he will be due irish vrt tax once he's home, on 11800 its likely to be circa 4000-5000 euro's on top+ there ridiculous road tax, yep its fooking savage, here lies the dodge - they get three months on entry to present the car for irish registration, failure to do so can lead to the car being lifted if seen in use, so in certain circumstances the customer cant meet the vrt duty after maxing out on the purchase, at this point it's not unusual for the customer to admit defeat have a change of heart and sell the car back into the u.k market, its then obviously running about with no tax and someone is holding a full v5 for it, any comebacks cameras etc will land on you first regards ownership, sorry if it sounds negative but as you can imagine it can become grief...photocopy and date time absolutely everything, even his license.

A few folks have mentioned not doing weekend or awkward viewing times, if you can afford to choose then great, but i'm guessing quite a lot of dealers in this current climate cant so it's surprising when on one hand people say they wont do it but then come up short for the month and say its quiet , i always thought logic said that if you were retailing cars the negative part of earning good money was that you gave up your weekends, or part of a weekend, or evening granted we can all smell a messer on the phone and don't want these loons about on any day let alone a sunday morning, but if joe blogs cant view until awkward o'clock because of work etc then he's usually the right man and worth the hassle, good chance he can pay for it for starters! its no different to me only being able to visit an high street on a sunday isn't it.. when i was full on retailing i would say a good 60% of my sales were evenings or weekends, for various reasons. some have called me mad down the years for being so flexible, iv'e had bods on site at 2am before(pre-paid), been sat at airports 6am picking up customers, iv'e delivered cars 200+miles at night just because iv'e had a home for the juicy p/ex. strange thing is that these were in times when the job was easier anyway so did not have to do the mad stuff, but with the job being so tight now i would of thought its now essential? that old motor trade saying - the harder i work the luckier i get

A few folks have mentioned not doing weekend or awkward viewing times, if you can afford to choose then great, but i'm guessing quite a lot of dealers in this current climate cant so it's surprising when on one hand people say they wont do it but then come up short for the month and say its quiet , i always thought logic said that if you were retailing cars the negative part of earning good money was that you gave up your weekends, or part of a weekend, or evening granted we can all smell a messer on the phone and don't want these loons about on any day let alone a sunday morning, but if joe blogs cant view until awkward o'clock because of work etc then he's usually the right man and worth the hassle, good chance he can pay for it for starters! its no different to me only being able to visit an high street on a sunday isn't it.. when i was full on retailing i would say a good 60% of my sales were evenings or weekends, for various reasons. some have called me mad down the years for being so flexible, iv'e had bods on site at 2am before(pre-paid), been sat at airports 6am picking up customers, iv'e delivered cars 200+miles at night just because iv'e had a home for the juicy p/ex. strange thing is that these were in times when the job was easier anyway so did not have to do the mad stuff, but with the job being so tight now i would of thought its now essential? that old motor trade saying - the harder i work the luckier i get

that's great shooting fella, can i ask your location and what age /mileage kit you have sold? cheers.

as you have mentioned it's probably best if you come back when the venture is physical, the last person on here to ask for an opinion on new start up (brumz) at least had something that was physical for us to evaluate, although it was a poor effort. you sound like a decent positive type and i wish you good luck, but quoting a cost to use before being physical is naive, best if you show us the cake first and then ask us if we want to taste it.

specific to the question then yes i do think it has a negative effect, depending on what you are selling. certainly on high end stuff it is becoming an issue, if the customer is savvy enough to hpi check your stock then they are savvy enough to work out if the car is sor or a stocking loan or old stock, don't presume they don't know how it works, this info obviously gives the buyer a feel for if or how much he can kick you for, or in the case of sor the finance on the car is upside down, all this can obviously be off putting for a buyer. the forums like pistonhead's are full of serious buyers all spending as much time discussing the vendor as they do researching the actual car. sadly there are currently plenty of dealers robbing peter to pay paul trading on the balance of financed / stock loaned cars, all of this no doubt makes a buyer very cautious. there is a big difference between a customer asking you why the car is showing financed as apposed to you making them aware the car is temporally showing as financed, so yes a car showing on hpi can only be a negative,unless someone can think of a positive reason.

where mr brumz gone? i'm missing the wind up...i even offered to double his start up investment, still waiting to hear where to send my pound coin

got a pile of old cap & glass guides here if you want them, 20 years worth, they might be out of date though.....

none of this is currently affecting / or will affect you, 1- zero emission's by 2050 means goods made "after/from " that date are eligible for zero emissions, that's 30 years away, we will all be retired or dead by then.... 2-pendragons failings - shares are down 20% today(mostly the carshop arm) - well this is good news for the rest of us. 3-autotrader loosing value- yippee,good news. the reality - larger used groups and franchise's are currently having pain, many of these will have no choice but to be involved in the transition that is coming, casualty's will be certain, coupled to the man in the streets perception of electric / hybrid as a used purchase... despite doom news and uncertainty over new tech and regulation, we as used car dealers still have and will have the luxury of choosing what we sell, in the short too medium term in my opinion the used car game is looking rosy. you forgot the pan roof / gun turret conversion, and i'm only signing up if tina turners involved ;-)

missed opportunity ? send your own written appraisal of this blokes company back to your customer explaining how he is an unqualified uninsured failed trader / delivery driver but has a mate who's good at web design and that he's ripped them off...

dave , if it gets that bad you can always do illegal merc v8 driving experiences in the highlands ? you'll probably have the last one that didn't get rounded up/hidden ;-)

steady on chap,me thinks you are worrying too much, once the new electric stuff becomes out of warranty and a used car prospect the market will decide the value not us as dealers, it will simply be we choose to sell these or choose not too, as always time will tell which used cars we are happy to run with, as for elon musk and tesla it's looking like time will catch up with him - the established brands have laughed and thanked him for putting electric into the public domain - now they will wipe the floor with him and give him a lesson in branding - check out the latest audi etron's for starters... for the record here are the latest new figures for may19 year on year, diesel down 18%, petrol up 1%, full electric/plug in up 81%, petrol hybrids up 35%, plug in hybrids were down 40% - probably due to loosing grant status? the biggest challenge ahead for used dealers will not be how to value these cars but as always how to dodge the ones with issues, future appraisals - ears & eyes might not be enough !!

the mirror story - just another crap article poorly written by another consumer rights pap / legal expert (parasite). shame these goons who write this shite don't have the time to use their media clout to push the authority's to make future motoring costs more transparent to the public, instead they choose to chastise the motor trade / trader. A trader is responsible to ensure the goods are in full working order and fit for purpose, cant see us ever being responsible for the legality of how to use or the running costs of said goods? as soon as we start quoting negatives based on what "might" happen to running costs in the future we will probably be accused of influencing the buyers decision, cant win. the article even mentions compensation for future residual value failings, again no mention of the reality that the government are sneaky fookers and have a habit of moving the goalposts, or the punters car was so good that it sold well hence used supply affected its future residual.