Pip 12 Posted January 17, 2018 All day at bca. What is going on can't move for people and cars selling hundreds above cap clean. Cars I have marked up at 3995 are making high 3s. I have a 58 Astra for 2495, watch an identical one make 22 today. Getting harder every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RH Trading 80 Posted January 17, 2018 CAP guide is worthless Pip, went to BCA myself this week and agree prices are right at the top end but its better to walk away empty handed than make panic buys, pay over the odds just to fill spaces and be sat on cars for 6 months gathering dust and zero calls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) ..... and what's surprising is that it's proper traders that are buying at these prices, not newbies? Makes you wonder what they're doing with them that they can make any money. I was at BCA Paddock Wood for the first time in years and was disappointed by the lack of quality stock. Years ago they got 'quality' p/x cars, clearly no longer! Edited January 17, 2018 by met Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperLease 13 Posted January 17, 2018 dont get me started on auction prices I have wasted too many hours at the block this month been better off going in the bookies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pip 12 Posted January 17, 2018 How do they justify their endemity charges? Never use to be like this. The cashiers should wear a mask. They don't hpi everything as I just had one come up with finance owing. £6000 car as wel and took them 4 days to sort it. Lucky I had an understanding buyer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 11 Posted January 17, 2018 Ive noticed im having to spend above cap clean to buy currently. I cant see how theres any money left in any of the deals. Cars arent making cap retail at the moment (for us anyway) so how the hell do people buy at almost retail price and sell on for profit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 2 Posted January 17, 2018 Just returned from Mannheim empty handed again! 2011 Mini Cooper d cab, cap clean £5700 sold for £6800 plus fees ???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dealer 54 Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Jimbo said: Ive noticed im having to spend above cap clean to buy currently. I cant see how theres any money left in any of the deals. Cars arent making cap retail at the moment (for us anyway) so how the hell do people buy at almost retail price and sell on for profit Haven't got anywhere near cap retail for years! 18 minutes ago, Jon said: Just returned from Mannheim empty handed again! 2011 Mini Cooper d cab, cap clean £5700 sold for £6800 plus fees ???? Which Manheim Jon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo9 26 Posted January 17, 2018 Couldn't actually find a space to park at Blackbushe today , glad I buggered off as it was the usual nonsense prices apparantly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 164 Posted January 17, 2018 January will always be the worst for buying! I used to go to blackbushe but gave up months ago. I watch online sometimes just for amusement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 2 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Manheim Haydock this evening . It was a white Cooper D 23k ex Arnold Clarke contract hire. Edited January 17, 2018 by Jon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike-Ktl 2 Posted January 17, 2018 I think it depends on what profit margin your after. I ignore all the guides most of the time. I see what I would retail the car for and work a margin in. I agree some cars make crazy money, I was up Aston Barclay today, managed 3, one had a blown headgasket, great!! Sometimes cars cap quite low and are way out sometimes. we would all be way better off if we could buy cap on most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrC 142 Posted January 17, 2018 I got a letter off BCA on Monday, downgrading me to poverty spec membership as I have not given them enough money over a 12 month period. This made my week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted January 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, tradex said: Paddock lost most of their quality venders years ago, a real shame. I wondered if it was a case of quality p/x's just don't exist period. 48 minutes ago, MrC said: I got a letter off BCA on Monday, downgrading me to poverty spec membership as I have not given them enough money over a 12 month period. This made my week. I've recently started using my BCA account after a lapse. The journey from blue to gold is a painful expensive one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DHill 16 Posted January 17, 2018 Ah yes, the journey from blue to gold. We used police cars for that one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 11 Posted January 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, met said: I wondered if it was a case of quality p/x's just don't exist period. I've recently started using my BCA account after a lapse. The journey from blue to gold is a painful expensive one. If quality p/x’s dont exist where are we going to all buy our stock :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted January 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Jimbo said: If quality p/x’s dont exist where are we going to all buy our stock :-( I'm having to buy less than quality and polish the profit into them. Personally, I got fed up with chasing the little nuggets of gold and paying way over for them. My current buying strategy is to be more open minded about taking on a little 'project' at the right price. A bit of paint or a clutch is not a deal breaker as long as it comes at the right price. You'll also notice there's less competition as everyone wants the car with no work, especially chancers/privates. When the world returns to normal and every car is a peach and under book then I'll be back on them again. Just my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparky 274 Posted January 18, 2018 I'm surprised that anyone is surprised what stuff is making. We all know what January is traditionally like for buying stock, factor in this year's a lack of quality for obvious reasons and you are left with even more Tom, Dick and Harrys fighting over what is left after the supermarket guys have filled their boots. Febuary will become the new January and things might ease off apart from the bills and then you are left playing Henry Kelly style catch up for the spring and summer. Nov and Dec folk will be stocking up for the new year and then it's back to square one and these type of threads this time next year. Can't wait. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted January 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, sparky said: I'm surprised that anyone is surprised what stuff is making. We all know what January is traditionally like for buying stock, factor in this year's a lack of quality for obvious reasons and you are left with even more Tom, Dick and Harrys fighting over what is left after the supermarket guys have filled their boots. Febuary will become the new January and things might ease off apart from the bills and then you are left playing Henry Kelly style catch up for the spring and summer. Nov and Dec folk will be stocking up for the new year and then it's back to square one and these type of threads this time next year. Can't wait. To be fair I was referring to the general auction price madness over the last 6 months rather than the usual seasonal peaks and troughs. But your point is a good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted January 18, 2018 13 hours ago, DHill said: Ah yes, the journey from blue to gold. We used police cars for that one! BCA Leeds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DHill 16 Posted January 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, met said: BCA Leeds? Brighouse, did they ever do police cars at BCA Leeds (formerly known as SMA or Premier) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trade vet 703 Posted January 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, DHill said: Brighouse, did they ever do police cars at BCA Leeds (formerly known as SMA or Premier) Brighouse,I thought Greengrass bought them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me 615 Posted January 18, 2018 16 hours ago, Mike-Ktl said: I agree some cars make crazy money, I was up Aston Barclay today, managed 3, one had a blown headgasket, great!! has it got a blown headgasket or a bit of mayonnaise as most traders on here think mayonnaise is a blown gasket too much edd china and ant tv watching i guess with the old nissan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan W 57 Posted January 18, 2018 Work at a main dealer here. and we are currently using Dealer Auction to move most of our px vehicles and I am really surprised at how much places are paying for stuff. example Toyota Yaris Diesel 07 with 112k bodywork damage on it and decent history. someone just gave us £1500 it booked at about £1200 without the damage ! looking on autotrader and others places cant see where he will make his profit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me 615 Posted January 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, trade vet said: Brighouse,I thought Greengrass bought them all. ah brighouse and greengrass in his scruffy coat held on with string wonder if they still have fish in the moat as you went aboard bought a car and they lost the keys happy memories.................................not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
