Nevillec 11 Posted May 11, 2020 When do you all think a physical auction will reopen.....not just online, but going to the auction in person and bidding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul C 75 Posted May 11, 2020 Realistically I think they'll only fully re-open July 4th or after, in the same category as other businesses where social distancing is more challenging. Since they can do online sort-of okay at the moment probably best to adapt to that than wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justina3 518 Posted May 11, 2020 Think the on line model suits them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lakeside 94 Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Paul C said: Realistically I think they'll only fully re-open July 4th or after, in the same category as other businesses where social distancing is more challenging. Since they can do online sort-of okay at the moment probably best to adapt to that than wait. I still cant see it that early, even when none essential shops are allowed to reopen social distancing will still be in place. How can a tiny auction hall cater for a few hundred buyers all fighting for attention and often in groups of other friends/family/colleagues to all stand 2 metres apart? It’s usually as packed as a cattle market and they won’t want to limit the amount of customers allowed in. Edited May 11, 2020 by Lakeside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul C 75 Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lakeside said: I still cant see it that early, even when none essential shops are allowed to reopen social distancing will still be in place. How can a tiny auction hall cater for a few hundred buyers all fighting for attention and often in groups of other friends/family/colleagues to all stand 2 metres apart? It’s usually as packed as a cattle market and they won’t want to limit the amount of customers allowed in. I guess it varies for different auctions. For sure, they'll be limiting the numbers attending in person to try enforce some kind of social distancing. The ones I know will probably be okay with that limitation, they are quite spacey, but I imagine some might never reopen until 2021 or later if they simply can't comply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highlinev8 28 Posted May 11, 2020 If BCA or Manhem refused to let Joe Public in for the moment then you would have 15/20 dealers. Ideally they could restrict it to Gold Level and above. If they had a pre approved invite system, For example if I saw an auction where there were multiple targets then I could ask for an invite. That would cut out all the browsers and suit and tie trade group buyers who have just turned up because they have to prove they are working. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted May 11, 2020 Between late August to mid September government wise hopefully although realistically maybe December in my opinion . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justina3 518 Posted May 11, 2020 They could just sort there appraisal system out and they wouldn’t need branches. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bmx Bandits 52 Posted May 11, 2020 I don’t think they can operate properly until we get a vaccine. The last auction I went to before lockdown was a nightmare, all the cars went through the hall had their doors locked and the windows up. You could’nt check interiors, keys, clutch, gearbox etc. Traders where all trying not to get near each other while trying to check a car/bid. It just really did it work. Mad as it sounds i’d almost rather take my chance online and try and claim against an incorrect appraisal. I think that if auctions find they can survive just by being online and with proper appraisals/resolution they might never need us back in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Row 71 Posted May 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, justina3 said: They could just sort there appraisal system out and they wouldn’t need branches. I agree, I think online only could be the way to go if they just get there appraisals improved, after all it's not rocket science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blenheim Car Sales 111 Posted May 12, 2020 if it was just account holders gold and above rather than the taxi drivers and the £100 flip car idiots then social distancing would be manageable. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted May 12, 2020 I know I bang on about this, but physical auctions have now had another nail in their coffin! They’ve always wanted us to sit at home buying, it suits them completely. I’m just amazed that auction houses have been slow to stick it on us. It will be interesting to see how bothered they are about physical auctions now they have a great opportunity like this to change everything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del Boy 76 Posted May 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, metcars said: I know I bang on about this, but physical auctions have now had another nail in their coffin! They’ve always wanted us to sit at home buying, it suits them completely. I’m just amazed that auction houses have been slow to stick it on us. It will be interesting to see how bothered they are about physical auctions now they have a great opportunity like this to change everything? I agree. Bca don’t help themselves by charging us to bid online, it should be the other way around! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justina3 518 Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Blenheim Car Sales said: if it was just account holders gold and above rather than the taxi drivers and the £100 flip car idiots then social distancing would be manageable. From the auction house side of things those customers pay over the odds for stock so if anything there the ones they would want at an auction not the dealer hoping to buy anything close to cap 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted May 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, justina3 said: From the auction house side of things those customers pay over the odds for stock so if anything there the ones they would want at an auction not the dealer hoping to buy anything close to cap Yes, spot on. Auctions love the ‘wannabe’ types. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highlinev8 28 Posted May 12, 2020 I think its more like the three times the auction fee that Joe public pays compared to a dealers gold/platinum card Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Highlinev8 said: I think its more like the three times the auction fee that Joe public pays compared to a dealers gold/platinum card The auction houses know what they are doing. They just want lots of hands in the air. They don’t have to make any moral judgments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul C 75 Posted May 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Highlinev8 said: I think its more like the three times the auction fee that Joe public pays compared to a dealers gold/platinum card Don't worry they'll find a way of putting the prices up and keeping profitable. Or letting everyone do it online. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justina3 518 Posted May 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Highlinev8 said: I think its more like the three times the auction fee that Joe public pays compared to a dealers gold/platinum card I forgot about that angle, with that in mind the dealers are the last people they want, apart from maybe the supermarket buyer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trade vet 704 Posted May 12, 2020 The auctions will find a way to reopen.Just a few thoughts.To avoid crowding and follow social distancing they could restrict the auction ring to people who have a permit having registered a prior interest in a particular vehicle.They will have to up their game with grading and photos to attract more online buyers and continue not to charge online and storage fees.Collections might only be allowed 3 days after sale days when the car has been parked up to limit the possibility of any infection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mojo121 229 Posted May 12, 2020 https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/car-dealerships-will-face-government-inspection-prove-safe-reopen-random-spot-checks/192293 article from James explains what measure might be put in place at workplaces, we can imagine how auctions would impose this. Can’t find a link to guidelines for retail or cars though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
have a word with the wife 299 Posted May 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mojo121 said: https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/car-dealerships-will-face-government-inspection-prove-safe-reopen-random-spot-checks/192293 article from James explains what measure might be put in place at workplaces, we can imagine how auctions would impose this. Can’t find a link to guidelines for retail or cars though? The eight separate guidance documents include: Construction and other outdoor work Factories, plants and warehouses Homes Labs and research facilities Offices and contact centres Restaurants offering takeaway or delivery Shops and branches HERE Vehicles HERE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
have a word with the wife 299 Posted May 12, 2020 https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/shops-and-branches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigpughcars 13 Posted May 12, 2020 I know it's a change of subject from the auctions , noticed a few hand carwash buinesses are operating with one claiming to had approval to do so from trading standards and even selling cars from the forcourt which they've been doing for a few weeks now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites