Earunder 69 Posted January 30, 2020 Hey guys, Got a customer on one of our cars and he has a Y (2001) Carrera 4, 911 (996), 3.4 Manual with 107k on the clock. It falls outside our retail criteria so offered it around to our local prestige car specialist who didn't get overly excited as he said they just sit there not selling. I found that quite strange so thought if anyone has any appealing appetite for these to send me a pm. Thanks in advance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 164 Posted January 30, 2020 Try the Facebook trade page? https://www.facebook.com/groups/304231463443682/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earunder 69 Posted January 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tom said: Try the Facebook trade page? https://www.facebook.com/groups/304231463443682/ Ooooh Nice 1! Never thought of looking on Facebook! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 164 Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Earunder said: Ooooh Nice 1! Never thought of looking on Facebook! Someone on there might bite on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkTVS 209 Posted January 30, 2020 Yeah I couldn’t get rid of our 996 Turbo manual, lots of weird Porsche perverts but a very tough cookie to sell. I wouldn’t touch another one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHM 994 Posted January 31, 2020 I wouldn’t have a friggin’ clue but I’d imagine with 99% of the punters on an old ‘price range’ 911 you wouldn’t want to spend a night out in the pub with them. Also I’d guess half of them wouldn’t be able to raise enough money for a round of drinks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted January 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, BHM said: I wouldn’t have a friggin’ clue but I’d imagine with 99% of the punters on an old ‘price range’ 911 you wouldn’t want to spend a night out in the pub with them. Also I’d guess half of them wouldn’t be able to raise enough money for a round of drinks. This. Ragging around in a 20yr old Porsche is like a grenade with the pin pulled out? The poor old thing will probably end its days on an ‘over optimistic’ track day! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparky 274 Posted January 31, 2020 10 hours ago, BHM said: I wouldn’t have a friggin’ clue but I’d imagine with 99% of the punters on an old ‘price range’ 911 you wouldn’t want to spend a night out in the pub with them. Also I’d guess half of them wouldn’t be able to raise enough money for a round of drinks. Wouldn't want to spend any time with them, and I'd hate to see what's on their hard drive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave c 5 Posted January 31, 2020 Cummon . A 19 year old Porsche? Who could offer a warranty on that? Gotta be a money pit waiting to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justina3 518 Posted February 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Dave c said: Cummon . A 19 year old Porsche? Who could offer a warranty on that? Gotta be a money pit waiting to happen. I disagree the 996 was a solid engine if it’s been looked after it will outlast all the other German rubbish, the 997 is when you needed a big bank balance in Maintance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, justina3 said: I disagree the 996 was a solid engine if it’s been looked after it will outlast all the other German rubbish, the 997 is when you needed a big bank balance in Maintance. True, but a Porsche is only good one thing. And any 20yr old performance car makes you wince when you approach the Rev limit? Edited February 1, 2020 by metcars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpenny 114 Posted February 1, 2020 996 is a solid car, especially the 3.6. IMS bearing is the only major concern. Sold a few with no major issues and also done work on a few. The GT2 is very complex though and best avoided. Of course any 20 year old car has exceeded its design life and potentially costly in future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted February 1, 2020 **Sigh** IMS is mostly scare mongering from the aftermarket. In reality only the very early first generation cars were affected; Porsche upgraded the bearing themselves. Of those that have had the bearing replaced only a small percentage actually needed to. The ‘magic’ ims bearing replacement is in itself not without risks? If you really want to buy an old car and feel the need to spend a couple of grand on a pre emptive strike, save it for a clutch or new brakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earunder 69 Posted February 1, 2020 Thanks guys for all the feedback, much appreciated. Will be putting it up on the FB group to see if there is any trade interest in it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpenny 114 Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, metcars said: **Sigh** IMS is mostly scare mongering from the aftermarket. In reality only the very early first generation cars were affected; Porsche upgraded the bearing themselves. Of those that have had the bearing replaced only a small percentage actually needed to. The ‘magic’ ims bearing replacement is in itself not without risks? If you really want to buy an old car and feel the need to spend a couple of grand on a pre emptive strike, save it for a clutch or new brakes. It was far from scaremongering. My brother's 2002 996 failed after about 2 years and 30k miles. All covered by Porsche UK. There was a big legal case from customers in the US and IIRC they were admitting 5-10% had failed before they modified the engine in 2006. OTOH we probably have sold half a dozen (quite long time back) with no problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kes 7 Posted February 1, 2020 8 hours ago, justina3 said: I disagree the 996 was a solid engine if it’s been looked after it will outlast all the other German rubbish, the 997 is when you needed a big bank balance in Maintance. +1 At least one reasonable comment. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted February 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Halfpenny said: It was far from scaremongering. My brother's 2002 996 failed after about 2 years and 30k miles. All covered by Porsche UK. There was a big legal case from customers in the US and IIRC they were admitting 5-10% had failed before they modified the engine in 2006. OTOH we probably have sold half a dozen (quite long time back) with no problems. Don’t forget many cars had perfectly good bearings changed for no reason due to the general furore. The ims bearing issue has helped a lot of independent Porsche specialists put their kids through college? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justina3 518 Posted February 1, 2020 I have been lucky enough to have owned 4 of them and never had a bearing issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blenheim Car Sales 111 Posted February 2, 2020 Older German cars are built to an engineering standard, Current German cars are built to an accountants price point 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave c 5 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 8:22 AM, Halfpenny said: 996 is a solid car, especially the 3.6. IMS bearing is the only major concern. Sold a few with no major issues and also done work on a few. The GT2 is very complex though and best avoided. Of course any 20 year old car has exceeded its design life and potentially costly in future. That’s where I was coming from (about the age). Any component could fail now ( and they’re not cheap to fix)leaving a large bill, hence my comment about being a money pit. Just saying.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justlooking 48 Posted February 2, 2020 We’ve sold 10+ in last couple years, 3.4/3.6 with no IMS issues pre or post sale. Only big problem was getting a leggy 997 out of BCA with a big engine misfire, turned out to need just a couple engine sensors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted February 3, 2020 11 hours ago, justlooking said: We’ve sold 10+ in last couple years, 3.4/3.6 with no IMS issues pre or post sale. Only big problem was getting a leggy 997 out of BCA with a big engine misfire, turned out to need just a couple engine sensors Like! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
