John Bowman 0 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Bristol City Council has approved a ban on diesel cars in a central zone during the daytime, which is set to come into effect in 2021. The proposal is now going to Whitehall and there will be a public consultation with residents and businesses. What do dealers on the forum – especially those in the Bristol area – think of the proposal? Do you think it'll become a UK-wide trend – and what could it mean for sales and dealerships?http://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/bristol-approves-daytime-ban-diesel-cars/180911 Feedback appreciated for use by Car Dealer Magazine. Thanks. Edited November 6, 2019 by John Bowman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted November 6, 2019 I think I mentioned this already in a thread somewhere. IMO diesels will die slowly. But I live in London, and we're always ahead of the curve! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHM 994 Posted November 6, 2019 That’s what you get when you get a council under Labour control with heavy support from Lib Dem’s & Greens - I see the Green Party are a strong 4th in Bristol. Anyhow, if Corbyn or Swinson get voted in, Bristol banning a few compression ignition cars will be the least of this country’s worries. Allegedly Bristol has a death toll of 300 p.a. due to air pollution! I’d love to see how the council arrived at that figure. I suspect a liberal lefty cock-eyed equation to suit their case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick M.K. 574 Posted November 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, BHM said: Allegedly Bristol has a death toll of 300 p.a. due to air pollution! They are the cocaine capital of the UK! Their air is polluted with more than diesel particles. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, BHM said: That’s what you get when you get a council under Labour control with heavy support from Lib Dem’s & Greens - I see the Green Party are a strong 4th in Bristol. Anyhow, if Corbyn or Swinson get voted in, Bristol banning a few compression ignition cars will be the least of this country’s worries. Allegedly Bristol has a death toll of 300 p.a. due to air pollution! I’d love to see how the council arrived at that figure. I suspect a liberal lefty cock-eyed equation to suit their case. Totally agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TangoVictor32 90 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BHM said: That’s what you get when you get a council under Labour control with heavy support from Lib Dem’s & Greens - I see the Green Party are a strong 4th in Bristol. Anyhow, if Corbyn or Swinson get voted in, Bristol banning a few compression ignition cars will be the least of this country’s worries. Allegedly Bristol has a death toll of 300 p.a. due to air pollution! I’d love to see how the council arrived at that figure. I suspect a liberal lefty cock-eyed equation to suit their case. You beat me to it. Labour has ruined every city it has touched. My children in Nottingham are suffering from constant council tax rises of 5% annuAlly. The labour council say its due to Tory Austerity. BUT they purchased an energy company in 2015 and it's making a loss and so far have pumped £40m in to it - hold on i thought you lot said you had no money hence the reduction of services. Edited November 6, 2019 by TangoVictor32 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grant8064 219 Posted November 6, 2019 Spare a thought for all the Bristollian crusties living in converted ambulances and minibuses... ...you reap what you sow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.T 39 Posted November 6, 2019 https://www.cleanairforbristol.org/faq-items/how-are-the-300-deaths-in-bristol-calculated/ They just basically made that 300 figure up, not one single person has actually died from diesel fumes. Maybe they'll send the revenue from the fines to the 40,000 children who work in the mines of the Democratic Republic of Congo for 50 pence a day, digging Cobalt for their electric cars batteries. It would be interesting to hear from the Peugeot dealer in Bristol that is situated in the banned diesel car zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHM 994 Posted November 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Nick M.K. said: They are the cocaine capital of the UK! Their air is polluted with more than diesel particles. That’s your funniest post in ages! Funnily enough the last time I was in the Bristol City Centre plenty of bag heads asked me for financial assistance. 54 minutes ago, J.T said: It would be interesting to hear from the Peugeot dealer in Bristol that is situated in the banned diesel car zone. They’ll have to start working night shifts for handovers of diesels. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted November 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, BHM said: They’ll have to start working night shifts for handovers of diesels. .... and on a zero hour contract! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TangoVictor32 90 Posted November 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, tradex said: Ahh, just noticed that commercial vehicles can enter the town if they pay a charge..... A cynic could argue that its OK to 'pollute/kill people' as long as the council earns from it And even private vehicles... Yes the charge is supposedly to discourage people... Fact is in this country these charges are extortion money or protection money - you pay and you're protected. You dont you get bummed with a fine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Contracts 68 Posted November 6, 2019 11 hours ago, John Bowman said: Bristol City Council has approved a ban on diesel cars in a central zone during the daytime, which is set to come into effect in 2021. The proposal is now going to Whitehall and there will be a public consultation with residents and businesses. What do dealers on the forum – especially those in the Bristol area – think of the proposal? Do you think it'll become a UK-wide trend – and what could it mean for sales and dealerships?http://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/bristol-approves-daytime-ban-diesel-cars/180911 Feedback appreciated for use by Car Dealer Magazine. Thanks. My initial thoughts are that if a city successfully bans diesel cars it will cause a fall in diesel sales as the public will loose confidence in the values on a national basis in fear the ban spreads to other cities. As it is only early stages I would expect it will turn out to be pre Euro 6 or similar, or just end up operating as a revenue raising daily charge for non complying vehicles as there will be lots of key workers commuting into the city who can’t afford to upgrade their cars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dealer 54 Posted November 7, 2019 Isn't this what Leeds Council are bringing in? Plenty more will follow as it will be a big money spinner for these supposedly cash strapped local authorities. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Horgan 564 Posted November 7, 2019 Funny how if you pay MONEY to the council its ok to drive vans in the city isn't it . Either Diesels are bad or they aren't , A daily charge doesn't make it better does it , Like London Congestion Charge , they now pay to queue it was free to queue before wasn't it . Bit like speeding tickets from cameras , SPEED KILLS they say , then they charge you £100 for 35mph so its ok how the devil does that work . Just been talking to a ex traffic cop friend of mine about bad driving in this heavy rain , he hates cameras and said when he was on duty he stopped offenders and gave them a talking too , think it was called education then What it really wants is no one to drive into Bristol or anywhere else that bans cars , only need one week and they would change instantly Mind maybe not Corbyn or the Libs /Green idiots they haven't a clue about businesses full stop Rant over I'm going for dinner now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
have a word with the wife 299 Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 11:00 AM, John Bowman said: Bristol City Council has approved a ban on diesel cars in a central zone during the daytime, which is set to come into effect in 2021. The proposal is now going to Whitehall and there will be a public consultation with residents and businesses. What do dealers on the forum – especially those in the Bristol area – think of the proposal? Do you think it'll become a UK-wide trend – and what could it mean for sales and dealerships?http://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/bristol-approves-daytime-ban-diesel-cars/180911 Feedback appreciated for use by Car Dealer Magazine. Thanks. but the clowncil are also thinking of introducing a scrappage scheme, set to be introduced as part of the scheme, please read the whole article ! cheap diesels in bristol lads ! come on, scan that part of the country ! labour want to scrap business rates for shops in town, then want to stop customers coming in ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15Cars 16 Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 11:05 PM, Contracts said: My initial thoughts are that if a city successfully bans diesel cars it will cause a fall in diesel sales as the public will loose confidence in the values on a national basis in fear the ban spreads to other cities. As it is only early stages I would expect it will turn out to be pre Euro 6 or similar, or just end up operating as a revenue raising daily charge for non complying vehicles as there will be lots of key workers commuting into the city who can’t afford to upgrade their cars. I'm not a million miles from Bristol; a TSI motor I have in stock has jumped to +400% in AT Portal in the past two days, I had 2 calls about it yesterday and woke up to 3 emails about it. It is a really good example and priced well tbf but it does seem a hell of a coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 164 Posted November 8, 2019 What happens when you buy an old diesel out of manheim bristol you cant drive it home it will need to be transported?! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark101 536 Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, 15Cars said: I'm not a million miles from Bristol None of us are 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHM 994 Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tom said: What happens when you buy an old diesel out of manheim bristol you cant drive it home it will need to be transported?! Yes, on the back of the big dirty diesel truck - the one the posh parents of Bristol will be stoning as it drives past asphyxiating poor little Tarquin & Matilda. Edited November 8, 2019 by BHM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Horgan 564 Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, BHM said: Yes, on the back of the big dirty diesel truck - the one the posh parents of Bristol will be stoning as it drives past asphyxiating poor little Tarquin & Matilda. Haha that made me laugh , 2litre diesel car on back of 6 litre delivery truck because cars are banned , typical modern Finking that isn't it When I was a lad we recycled everything Milk In Glass bottles Cabbages in News paper Fruit in Paper bags Pop Bottles in glass Fish n chips in Paper Electric Milk carts Then the modern youf changed it all didn't they and now blame us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparky 274 Posted November 8, 2019 This is all really ridiculous, next the tree huggers will be blaming asthmatics for us being able to wear a pair of speedos on Xmas day. Oh wait a minute....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50215011 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRW 73 Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 5:10 PM, Nick M.K. said: They are the cocaine capital of the UK! Harsh! I believe that is my “beloved” Penzance’s claim to fame!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick M.K. 574 Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, CRW said: Harsh! There was a TOP 10 Article recently. Bristol number 1, Penzance not even on the list :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRW 73 Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nick M.K. said: Penzance not even on the list : It should have been. half the town are off their tits every weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHM 994 Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, sparky said: This is all really ridiculous, next the tree huggers will be blaming asthmatics for us being able to wear a pair of speedos on Xmas day. Oh wait a minute....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50215011 Who are these twats that come out with this drivel? How do they draw a wage every month? Apparently just one asthmatic person can generate UP TO 63 STONES OF CO2 PER YEAR! How fucking big are their inhalers? Also 4% of the NHS’s greenhouse gas emissions are from.......inhalers! Cripes!! I’m glad I’m not asthmatic because after scanning through that news piece I reckon there needs to be a cull of asthmatics in order to save little Tarquin & Matilda of Bristol. Going back to the original question about Bristol’s filthy air, how’s this for irony? Bristol’s postcodes start with BS. Edited November 8, 2019 by BHM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
