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Morning, I've just narrowly escaped taking a red 54reg BMW 318, 100k mile in part exchange. I completed the deal yesterday and they guy hadn't come in his px because of a leg injury he apparently gets stiff driving it so came in his van. He gave me a good, what seemed honest description of the car going overboard to tell me it wasn't mint, had a few marks but generally a nice car so I agreed a deal on his description after a bit of negotiation. Anyways.....get a phone call very early this morning asking if he can pick the car up earlier because of work commitments so he turns up at just before 8am, he's all in a rush and has already tried to hand me over an envelope of money 3 or 4 times, things just don't seem right. I asked the keys for his car just so I can check it over and by looks is a little better than expected but what seems strange is the car seems cold - cold bonnet, temp gauge not reading etc and he lives over 60 miles away. I open the bonnet and no signs of anything wrong, so I start it and leave it running for a few minutes while talking to him, go back and check the car again and the expansion tank is full of little shiny bits - K-Seal!!! After a lengthy discussion, argument (he's a big chap) I tell him I don't want his car because it obviously has a head gasket issue, he denies any knowledge calls me a few choice names, I agree to return his deposit, £100 cash and he disappeared. Its still in the back of my mind that maybe he didn't know so there could be a chance to resurrect the deal somehow, I was only offering £800, so I jump in my car to see if I can see him. About 1/2 mile up the road there's his BMW up a housing estate being loaded onto the back of a transit recovery truck!!! He had me hook, line and sinker all the way even to the point where I was feeling guilty for suggesting he wasn't being entirely honest!! I'm in the North Lincolnshire area but the guys from Sleaford so just be on the lookout because he tells a pretty good story and obviously had thought out what he was going to do and am pretty sure he'll try it again.

Name and shame, James! In fact, this could be the beginnings of either this week's rant, or a whole new thread of 'outing' rip-off merchants - punters and suppliers.

we'll have to have a forum get together in the Business Centre! Thats where I pretend to be studying the lists but really I'm just there for the free coffee and biscuits

I was up BB on monday! I usually work out retail then work backwards to what I want to give. I use the guide prices but not for retail only trade and make sure its in the same area I want to pay.

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latest scam ive been tricked into twice this last month is p/x vehicles with much shorter tests than sellers told me about but on both occasions i offered peanuts anyway as i didnt really want them,i offered both of them on ebay and all of the scum of the world came out to bid me lower,they sold and i made profit but both left a bitter taste,best thing is i now have the upper hand in any warranty issues (i self warrant so they come to me)

and apparently it's us dealer who are the 'dodgy' ones. Well done though.

HI all, without getting into defending values or individual justification - as I am on here as a industry enthusiast and someone who is interested in supporting where possible. I/we often see these, what we call 'outliers' and need to ensure that we understand the overall market, where it was sold (location), who sold and potentially where possible - who bought it? As buyers, how often do you see these examples, and more importantly, after all the costs involved with the purchase, not forgetting the incidentals afterwards to prepare and market the vehicle - where is the retail market for these cars? Costs are not coming down, and the retail market is not becoming less competitive.....

just go through the motions as you never know it could be a small broker, but don't release it till the monies in your bank and can't be debited

Thanks. Yep old style blue V5. I'm bought it off an old guy who I think has probably just binned the new V5 when it arrived not knowing what it was. Anyway took it to the post office and taxed it no issues, she seemed to do a lot of tapping on her computer so not sure if it will be the same for everybody because I have a real good post office who will bend the rules sometimes.

Sold it, get in

Fill me with confidence why don't you... haha