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Must do surely? Otherwise how do they protect their outlay? If they don't then the car isn't the security and makes no difference. It's no different for the main dealer taking the car in chop. Hpi check is all you can do.

I love Click Dealer - they are brilliant and I couldn't recommend them highly enough. However I really can't get on with their invoices though. Just seems so long winded and small, and you want an invoice to be clear, quick and easy when you've got the punter there. Hopefully they will come up with something better. As much as I hate AT and everything about them (so glad I'm not feeding that beast anymore) the invoicing on Dealer Portal was great. Unlike their clear as mud invoicing to us I seem to remember! We just use old fashioned handwritten invoice pads.

Absolutely. Me too. Can't be in this game long term and still like any of the junk. (I'm sure there's exceptions to the rule and my wife just says I'm miserable).

Not flying but ticking over. Only seven so far but margins have been good.

I’ve asked to join the fold. Will see if I’m special or not. I bet it’s no different than the main site but with more swearing? That’s because you’re still keen and un-damaged by the game and say trendy things like ‘LOL’. ...and use those yellow facey things that all look the same and make no sense.

European Swallow?

Me too. I'm fed up of these occasional idiots trying it on thinking they can return a car at the drop of a hat-no matter how many weeks/months have gone by. Especially when you've said you'll fix it!

Yup - agree and I was just thinking the same. We're ticking over but nothing to write home about, and everyone I speak to seems to be in the same boat. It happens. Just glad I haven't got that monster AT bill to pay! ;0)

You just click on the ebay MP listing (I do it after it has been fed from loading on Click Dealer) click 'Change' then 'Allow Best Offer' is a check box to tick underneath the price. I then ammend the heading and sub heading, scroll down and add any other bits the feed has missed, then I also click on the 'Exclude from bulk uploads' otherwise your next feed may overwrite your changes. Price Consumer Price £ VAT Information Please select (VAT included) + VAT (No VAT) Applicable VAT Rate % Allow buyers to send you their Best Offers for your consideration Note: Using Best Offer will make you subject to feedback if offers are formally accepted through My eBay.

We do OK with them - I'm sure it's only 300 quid still though - must check. It's not as good as eBay MP (with good subtitles and Best Offer enabled/ good pics and description).

Isn't that true with most things- you really only ever buy 'em right in PX. Otherwise we're all paying over the odds on DA,BCA, Manheim etc.

Sell eventually, but endless grief german stuff for us, and we don't find any of it is desirable or sells well down here-so I don't buy anything german now, but hit them hard if come in in PX. Were yours petrol or diesel? I guess as they become more affordable and hit a certain price point then everything has its day.

Good idea of Matt's that. I sell lots long distance and they're no more or less prone to grief than local stuff. Long as you do your job properly, Pdi, no advisory MOT etc and get them to test drive and sign to say they are happy and they note there are no faults at the time of sale, you're good to go. With the out of area ones, I always put a paid warranty on too. It doesn't always absolve me of the chance of future responsibilities, but usually, the great majority of sales go past the warranty period without any comebacks. Problem is, we forget this and only remember the doom.

Can't you go in to your Hpi history and find it?

We did a coupe plus one subject to finance. It's def worth being AVAILABLE but none of them were walk-ons. Same with most sales to be fair - rarely any walk-ons nowadays. Funny how the game changes over the years.

Isn’t the later stuff GM? We’ve sold loads of pre- 10 plate i10’s. Never had a comeback. Later ones look like Vauxhall stuff to me.

Yup. Agree. High up on the ‘Cars Not to Buy’ list for me.

Indeed. Except Nissan (being a Renault). I love it when a customer poo-poos a Renault but then is happy to go for a Nissan. Or won’t buy a Peugeot diesel but will a Ford. Or won’t buy a Ford but will a Volvo Or (when they used to sell) buy a Mini thinking it was a German engine and you point out it’s got a 207 lump in it. Oh. The little things... ;o)

I used to be able to sell these, but seem to stick now. I’ve got a lovely 09 Cooper I’ve had months. I was wondering about it the other day. Is it because they change shape so often? Not trendy now?

I’d take French over German any day of the week nowadays.

£500?! Wow. What a w***er! A) Demand he returns it for inspection at a garage of your choice. B ) Give him his money back (minus 25p a mile) . Not worth thinking about-you’re not likely to do a head gasket. Put it up for spares or repair auction; or let him do his worse I say!

Have a read here as we discussed this a while back and might give you some info:

(Poor Vic is assuming that just because a punter says they understand something and are happy with the terms offered,-and often negotiate based on it- that they aren’t reneging have-their-cake-and-eat-it liars quite often. Like the old chestnut of when they want a ‘trade sale’! You can bet your house on them coming back if there’s a problem or issue and they have no morals or cares about going back on their word or a handshake.) As we’ve constantly harped on about on here: you have to cover your arse in triplicate. Even then, they’ll try it on no matter how well you do the job and with all the best intentions in the world.

Without fail it’s pretty much always a German car punter! (I have one at the minute (BMW) a month and a half out of warranty, trying to get me to pay for various consumable bits at BMW Main Dealer.) Taking an old car to a Main Dealer is pathetic and insane. I think all you can do is exercise your right to inspect at this stage and, if there is a problem, look to offering him some goodwill or, if he pushes it, fix it or have your day in court Did you do do a Pdi sheet, Mot, service etc? Proof that it didn’t have a fault at time of sale is paramount and is your responsibility to prove. You can’t dodge your trader responsibilities I’m afraid. The court will not be interested in you trying to say it was a personal car.