Tim H 16 Posted January 11, 2019 Hi Tony, You certainly do have two extreme cases to deal with, and getting professional help would be a good option. I haven't seen this mentioned on the forum, but may be worth a look at joining the Car Dealer Magazine club at http://cardealerclub.com/ Good luck.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 11, 2019 Thanks. Will look into this. I have 2 and just waiting for the 3rd as you know they come in 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHM 994 Posted January 12, 2019 9 months ago the alleged repair works have been executed & now he comes to you shaking his collection tin. He’d be given VERY short shrift here. Basically “f.o. & do your best”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 24, 2019 Hi all got an interesting update. We wrote back asking for a copy of service records and we did not mention we have the advert txt from autotrader the day he purchased the car and it clearly says the cars cambelt was replaced in 2016 and had comprehensive service history including every reciept from new. He has send us photocopy of a duplicate service book fully stamped but the 2016 service missing! Is this guy for real? Im sure this is fraud! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EPV 631 Posted January 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tony911 said: Hi all got an interesting update. We wrote back asking for a copy of service records and we did not mention we have the advert txt from autotrader the day he purchased the car and it clearly says the cars cambelt was replaced in 2016 and had comprehensive service history including every reciept from new. He has send us photocopy of a duplicate service book fully stamped but the 2016 service missing! Is this guy for real? Im sure this is fraud! In a word yes. Dave said sometime ago that this was bordering on fraud and what he is now doing, effectively doctoring a service history on a car for deceptive purposes, is fraud. You should possibly seek legal advice and go from there mate. This bloke is clearly a complete chancer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rory RSC 596 Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony911 said: Hi all got an interesting update. We wrote back asking for a copy of service records and we did not mention we have the advert txt from autotrader the day he purchased the car and it clearly says the cars cambelt was replaced in 2016 and had comprehensive service history including every reciept from new. He has send us photocopy of a duplicate service book fully stamped but the 2016 service missing! Is this guy for real? Im sure this is fraud! Get enough of your own evidence together to prove he is lying and then destroy him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 24, 2019 Will keep all our paperwork together not going to reply let him do his best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Ayers 171 Posted January 24, 2019 Just to clarify. Do you have evidence of the history and cambelt or is it just the advert you are relying on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EPV 631 Posted January 24, 2019 Get hold of the garage that did the service in 2016. Likely to be the same that did it in 2015 or 2017 and if not, check out where the MOT was done in 2016 as they may have also serviced it. Once you have the evidence, send it off to him and tell him if he continues to persist in trying to extort you that you will sue him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, David Ayers said: Just to clarify. Do you have evidence of the history and cambelt or is it just the advert you are relying on? No just the advert text which customer will have viewed surely date and mileage was written of cambelt change in advert so we won't have put it unless we had evidence statting so 10 minutes ago, EPV said: Get hold of the garage that did the service in 2016. Likely to be the same that did it in 2015 or 2017 and if not, check out where the MOT was done in 2016 as they may have also serviced it. Once you have the evidence, send it off to him and tell him if he continues to persist in trying to extort you that you will sue him. Good idea thanks. Saying that how do we know this service book is real Edited January 24, 2019 by Tony911 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EPV 631 Posted January 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, Tony911 said: No just the advert text which customer will have viewed surely date and mileage was written of cambelt change in advert so we won't have put it unless we had evidence statting so Good idea thanks. Saying that how do we know this service book is real Firstly ring the garage who did the 2017 service, confirm it as genuine. In an ideal world he's falsified the whole lot of it but that seems unlikely. If 2017 and 2015 are genuine and he's just doctored out the 2016 part, which shows the belt being done then chances are whoever did the service in 2015 or 2017 or both, would have done 2016. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Horgan 564 Posted January 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, Tony911 said: No just the advert text which customer will have viewed surely date and mileage was written of cambelt change in advert so we won't have put it unless we had evidence statting so Good idea thanks. Saying that how do we know this service book is real We had chap who bought a SLK off us two years ago , super thing and we had driven it 70+ miles too so knew it very well , he took it home to Kent 250 miles away and rang us to say the rear diff had gone on way home , Luckily my son was down Kent on Hols so was knocking on his door 15 mins later asking to drive it , The chap was devastated as clearly it was a scam , The surprise he got was worth the call the scamming old git , Nothing wrong with his car at all just after some money 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOACROSS 414 Posted January 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, David Horgan said: We had chap who bought a SLK off us two years ago , super thing and we had driven it 70+ miles too so knew it very well , he took it home to Kent 250 miles away and rang us to say the rear diff had gone on way home , Luckily my son was down Kent on Hols so was knocking on his door 15 mins later asking to drive it , The chap was devastated as clearly it was a scam , The surprise he got was worth the call the scamming old git , Nothing wrong with his car at all just after some money Love it. Would have been great to be a fly on that wall! This is why (for anybody reading who doesn't know) you should always, always, get the car back to you if you self warrant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, David Horgan said: We had chap who bought a SLK off us two years ago , super thing and we had driven it 70+ miles too so knew it very well , he took it home to Kent 250 miles away and rang us to say the rear diff had gone on way home , Luckily my son was down Kent on Hols so was knocking on his door 15 mins later asking to drive it , The chap was devastated as clearly it was a scam , The surprise he got was worth the call the scamming old git , Nothing wrong with his car at all just after some money Lol. Been thinking of going to pay him a visit and see what the crack is and maybe something else On 11/01/2019 at 4:09 PM, tradex said: Tel him to try his luck. So 9 months after the event.....chancer. I had a 'solicitor' pull a stunt like this (was actually a house conveyancing bod) one 65 quid letter from our solicitor and never heard from again. Funny thing about timing belts, warranted for a year as a replacement part but changed 10 years on some cars like PSA 2.0 hdi diesels. Tradex its not the same guy hes from manchester? I think he got offended as in the reply asking for the service history we'd put we remember you mentioning you worked as a receptionist at a solicitors firm and his reply was he's in the house conveyancing part! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ocsltd 133 Posted January 24, 2019 Service history / timing belt aside, have you seen / got any proof that the timing belt did indeed snap, and that he actually has had a replacement engine. Not that I think he's got a case at all, but unless you've got confirmation from a garage who carried out the work on the replacement engine, or a breakdown report, I'm not sure I'd believe these chain of events....... It's quite probable he's making the whole thing up!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, tradex said: I mentioned this a long while back but a plastic trader at Paddock Wood - no longer about, thank f*ck - used to buy a lot of Volvo's (Audi's?) from privates. Horrible bit of work but could charm the birds from the trees, prat was always on the ponce too. His day job was something to do with decorating, cash in hand as he was claiming dole too, guy was filth. He would, without fail, call the seller a few hours after the purchase to say the gearbox had failed bits all over road, had to have the car recovered off a motorway, Dartford crossing, Blackwall tunnel or some other proper drama, wanting a few quid back as the car was advertised as 'excellent condition', threatened legal action the lot etc. If he could be believed (and it was verified by someone I knew) he got a few quid back sometimes. On 11/01/2019 at 4:09 PM, tradex said: Tel him to try his luck. So 9 months after the event.....chancer. I had a 'solicitor' pull a stunt like this (was actually a house conveyancing bod) one 65 quid letter from our solicitor and never heard from again. Funny thing about timing belts, warranted for a year as a replacement part but changed 10 years on some cars like PSA 2.0 hdi diesels. Tradex its not the same guy hes from manchester? I think he got offended as in the reply asking for the service history we'd put we remember you mentioning you worked as a receptionist at a solicitors firm and his reply was he's in the house conveyancing part! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 24, 2019 You want some scraps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmpants 14 Posted January 24, 2019 If he's saying he's had a replacement engine fitted maybe ask him to take a pic of the engine number? Ideally a video showing the car reg plate then finishing at the engine number? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExCouncilJobsworth 27 Posted January 25, 2019 No leg to stand on. He should have contacted you to do the belt not do it himself. Then contact you after his belt snapped? (Or is he saying yours snapped and he had to replace engine?) Either way he's fucked. Go to court judge will slap him one and say 'as a legal profession why did you not contact the seller sooner and why after you spent your money and that too often 9 months?' He's destroyed your invoice on the belt change so you got no proof. Like AD said go in heavy handed with legal not alone. So many solicitors try it on. He's probably a poxy low level solicitor. Most are slack. Worked with many at the council Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHM 994 Posted January 25, 2019 Why are people wary of solicitors? They work to exactly the same laws as us and there are as many slackers in that profession as in many others. You certainly don’t need to employ the services of another solicitor to sack him off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me 612 Posted January 25, 2019 just for the record house conveyancing has nothing to do with being a real solicitor they are just paper shufflers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 25, 2019 He can try his best not going to entertain him even the 2 letters he has sent are not recorded delivery so je just taking the piss. Might round to his house 1 day when im in manchester for a cuppa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony911 79 Posted January 25, 2019 Na not even gonna worry about this he can try and do what he wants dont have time. Cost £1.80 every time we send a letter recorded cant afford it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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