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  1. Posted

    9 hours ago, Casper said:

    Did the manufacturers not do something like that before I remember buying a few Peugeot’s for my dad from the local dealer which had been registered to the rental company although I’m not sure if Peugeot just bought them from them think Vauxhall and ford did a similar thing 

    Yrs Pug did this with vans in early noughties

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  7. Posted

    16 hours ago, It's me said:

    Some people seem to take delight in stealing these at the auctions

    At least that little pleasure has been removed lately

    I've never bought a dealer replacement as sapper says I order a new set off eBay or just buy 4 standard lugs rpto replace the removed lockers

    Thing is lots of these modern lockers are garbage and been done up 18 months ago with a windy gun on full belt so the tool you've just bought fails anyway

    Just my input being very old and not part of the ignorant boorish younger generation look at me im Mr big

    Could never understand why idiots stole these? 

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  9. Posted · Edited by Frank Cannon

    18 hours ago, trade vet said:

    They have probably set up their own WhatsApp group where they can ‘ one up ‘each other like the usual auction ring group of bullshitters of old.I can imagine what it’s like if you post ‘how ya doing’ and in reply ‘ a bit quiet but did 9 on Monday ‘.How about margins ‘ still only netting 2 grand a unit ‘ .Then another ‘ wouldn’t get out of bed for less than 3 grand ‘. You have got to laugh.

    Ain't that the truth:D

    Funny how these ones usually go missing after a while once the loans 'n cash flow has dried up. 

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  15. Posted

    I've found its word of mouth in this business, things may of changed as it's been a long time since I've employed somebody and I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than do it again. 

    Personally I'd do everything I can do avoid employing staff but, we all work differentlyB)

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  17. Posted · Edited by Frank Cannon

    20 minutes ago, BHM said:

    That was the form with kitchen suppliers the last time I bought one & is still the form with fitted furniture suppliers - and they say WE are the shysters! It’s just as well I was sat down when I was presented with their optimistic quote, I was so shocked I actually blurred out “You're fucking joking?” :lol:. I felt the rough tickle of wool being pulled across my eyes as they spouted the line as they left “You’ll need to order this week to secure that price in case the price increases because the factory alters prices weekly as they get busier”. Yeah, rightio!

    I had a Zenith double glazing rep around few years back....best entertainment in years.

    All the old clichés

    20 minute video first off... 

    Once off price this week as good customers... 

    Can I borrow your phone to ring my boss....can't we help these lovely people with a better price....

    I'll tell your what, bugger the boss I'll cut you a discount....

    Expecting a big price increase due to Brexit and did you know three of the four plastic wholesale suppliers were out of action with roofs blown off....all bar one in Italy apparently.... 

    Simply refused to take a bank transfer, wanted to strap us up, somehow saying that when someone wants to pays cash it means their credit was shite, hiding behind cash and that strap would improve our rating. 

    I think our builder did the job at 40% less than his best/ once only/ I'll loose my job over this/can I level with you price. 

    The biggest problem was getting the twat out of the house, in the end I threw his sodding display window and exec briefcase out onto the front garden, he just couldn't take three polite "please leaves" for an answer, then I boiled over, wife warned him too.

    Left saying he was calling the plod:rolleyes:

     

     

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  18. Posted

    On 3/14/2021 at 1:53 PM, DCS01 said:

    I just still can’t get my head around it. Maybe up to 18 months old cars yes.  But anything older than that?  Over the years the amount of times I think a car is perfect and the customer comes down and tears it apart how do you deal with those people when you are just delivering a car? 
    Who is dealing with the buy backs and the issues of repairing a broken car in the 1st 6 months? How do they allow for miss described part exchanges?

    I also still don’t think when the dealerships open back up and customers can go and have drives that it will stand up to a hungry sales person with a family and a mortgage to feed. 
     

    I may be completely wrong but I’ve worked in main dealers long enough saying that internet sales will take over and they never have.

    This B)

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  20. Posted · Edited by Frank Cannon

    1 hour ago, trade vet said:

    What I don’t understand is BCA’s Cinch operation.Why do they think they can make more money retailing when their auctions have never made as much money as they have of late.I was reading Vertu Motors last accounts,150 retail sites,£3 billion sales,£7m net profit and 40% of the profit came from 8% of sales which was ‘after sales ‘.That about sums the job up.

    I think since the management change at BCA a few years back, the automotive slant on things has been completely lost.

    BCA have good thing going why fuck it up with the retail end of the business which is afterall, where the worst grief is.....some out of the box thinking which is in actual fact, out of of this world, to many looking in from the outside. 

    Greed is playing a big part backed up by clever talking suits? 

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  22. Posted · Edited by Frank Cannon

    Hang on, the replies above assumes the OP made a typo with the valuation.:lol:

    They could be worth 6 long if their assests are worth that? Probably not though. 

    S'funny but, a few of these smiley white teeth click n deliver companies are also starting sites....hmm.

    I think they/we/suits miss the point that the chase of viewing cars for many people.

    Lovely clean shiny buildings not at all like their own dull dreary shithole, touching them cars, smelling them squeaky clean cars after a valet, sitting in them cars, clutching the steering wheel going brrm brrm to themselves like a kid is, half the fun for a lot of people and, their families.

    It's a tactile thing, buying a newer/another set of wheels, is rarely done by most. We are immune to it. 

    Many 'Customers' like the stroking, the petting, the sycophantic smiles and free fluffy coffee of an onsite buying experience. 

    I mean, Harrods sell Heinz baked beans by the shitload too and, they are neither as convenient or as cheap as Tesco online but, buying a can of Beanz Meanz Heinz at Harrods is, a real experience. Some purchasers will even point to that 'never to be opened' container of cooked harricots in tomato sauce and, remember that day and tell others of it's story. 

    PS They may catch some of BHMs customers though, possibly not a lot of petting going down there;)

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  23. Posted

    12 hours ago, Mercftw said:

    Hello there Lads 

    Was wondering what you fellas are currently paying for your Motor Trade policy as I’m due a renewal soon and just want to see what the market is like. 
     

    currently paying £4700 with an any driver policy for trade, me and missus on for social and son 19 on for trade only. 

    Where are you, what size premises, unaccompanied test drives, highest insured asset.....etc

  24. Posted · Edited by Frank Cannon

    On 3/6/2021 at 10:56 AM, MJG50 said:

    Yes it does feel as though the XE and 2015 on XF (which are hard to tell apart on the road) are almost modern day X-types in the sense that they don't really feel like proper Jaguars. I actually didn't mind an X-type back in the day though - they were pretty good sellers and drove pretty well. I've known people who had issues with theirs when new-ish but mine were all fault-free, they were all ex lease and under 3 years old at the time. I never trusted the auto box on them so stuck to manuals. The Mondeo it was based on was a good drive but ultimately I far preferred a 325i or 330i compared to an equivalent X-type to drive.

    There are still quite a few very low mileage early X-types about bought by those who 'promised themselves a 'Jag' when they retired but sadly they are a nightmare for rust now. I remember seeing one without an MoT make £800 at Manheim and a quick MoT history check revealed it had been put through an MoT before being PX'd and it failed on a list as long as your arm for rust on the sills and pretty much everywhere else! 

    The 90 day policy can work out well potentially for auction buys as I have much more confidence in bidding on a car that a main dealer has already thought fit to retail themselves. In the past, I used to find that main dealers block prestige PXs that needed paintwork. They were mechanically fine so were good buys. I always thought it strange that the main dealer didn't do the paintwork themselves and retail them.

    I know some main agents that operate on 60 days.....then moan they can't get stock:D but, that said some late lumpy stuff can go backwards a chunk after 2 months. 

     

    X Types: I had a good business out of those, never had a bad lump or box and great sellers.

    That said, I had one bought at BCA Paddock Wood that when MOTd came back with a 'dangerous to drive' it was so rotten....no inner/outer/box section sills, fuck all belt anchor points, rotted out spring pans.....

    ....it was but 6 years old with only 40k from memory and, looked simply stunning in metallic red with oatmeal leather, virtually unmarked, full Jaguar history too.

    I couldn't trace the previous owner but, Jaguar had a 6 year perforation warranty back then that was notoriously hard to claim against, the previous MOTs by the Jaguar dealer had no advise notes for anything let alone corrosion.....maybe a conflict of interests there but, surely the dealer would be paid to put right the car by Jaguar although strictly speaking by main agent costings the car was a write off? There must of been a story there? 

    .....and, even more bizarrely I sold it in the ring, then it was MOTd again, was absolutely slaughtered by the tester, came back to the hall, then sold again and, it ended up on a Suzuki main agent used site on the South Coast, with the most moody MOT ever.:rolleyes: