Civic type r knock sensor

[andymc1973 199]

The car is a 2009 and after a clutch change started putting the eml on (knock sensor), we fitted another knock sensor and it still put the eml on (knock sensor), I was advised to take it to an auto electrician (VSS Sunderland, very well regarded) who advised it must be the ECU as the sensor was fine, they sourced one from ebay, opened it up and swopped the data, they also pointed out the clutch change had no bearing on the problem, they checked the live data and everything is working as it should but they have hit a dead end on how to fix, I have even filled it up with super plus in case that was the issue, i am now at a loss, does anyone have any ideas?

ta

Andy

[MarkTVS 209]

It’s due to the awkward design of the starter, it’s very easy to burst the knock sensor when removing starter motor to remove gearbox, I have done it myself. I would bet a months wage it’s either a faulty £7 eBay knock sensor or they have broken a site at the sensor. It will definitely not be the ecu.

[andymc1973 199]

They’ve checked all that out apparently, ecu taking to the knock sensor and vice versa, the first mechanic did say when they changed the clutch they smashed the sensor 

[Mikey360 68]

Had this on a family owned S2000 a few years back, tried a cheap one, didn't work. Paid extra for a honda oem one, worked a treat. 

Also make sure that there's nothing stuck in the plug hole, from memory the connection can snap easily add stay in the hole. 

[andymc1973 199]

that was my first thought but surely the auto electrician would have checked all was well in the signal (it was)

ps what a week, I hate cars

[It's me 611]

1 hour ago, andymc1973 said:

They’ve checked all that out apparently, ecu taking to the knock sensor and vice versa, the first mechanic did say when they changed the clutch they smashed the sensor 

a knock sensor is a glorified microphone

so

have you replaced the broken one with a proper part ie dealer or eqiv

was the data seen, live data or just that it was showing working on some generic machine

its highly possible its a wiring issue

never worked on these, think they is huggli anyway 99/100 when i hear specialists say

-----------------its your ecu guv------------------------------

i just despair...................

 

[andymc1973 199]

the car was with top auto spark chap in the area, the knock sensor will have been a euro parts special, what happens when the knock sensor isn't working?

[Stalker 180]

Knock sensors have very specific torque settings, and must not be exceeded. 

Try a genuine one, the Eurocarparts one could have been somebody’s old unit that they sent back for a credit. 

[MarkTVS 209]

27 minutes ago, andymc1973 said:

the car was with top auto spark chap in the area, the knock sensor will have been a euro parts special, what happens when the knock sensor isn't working?

But if the fault wasn’t there before the job and only appeared after they touched it surely it can’t be the ecu. As stated put a genuine sensor on it and get someone with a scope to check it if there’s further issues. Look for the simple answer to the problem not the difficult one.

If you still think it’s the ecu I’ll buy the car if it’s going cheap 

[mike101 8]

11 hours ago, MarkTVS said:

But if the fault wasn’t there before the job and only appeared after they touched it surely it can’t be the ecu. As stated put a genuine sensor on it and get someone with a scope to check it if there’s further issues. Look for the simple answer to the problem not the difficult one.

If you still think it’s the ecu I’ll buy the car if it’s going cheap 

+1 for genuine sensor - the frequency will be wrong on the Euro one. 

[andymc1973 199]

Ok cheers guys, I’ll update 

[Tadams 29]

valve clearances will cause  knock sensor issues especially on these K20's. 

Worth checking for sure  

[David Horgan 564]

Honda parts work on Honda cars .

The rest of the euro parts are rubbish . 

Fit a Honda Sensor , Not Clutch that caused this prob . 

[metcars 395]

Andy you cheapskate, buy a proper sensor! Lol

[andymc1973 199]

genuine knock sensor fixed, shit performance from the so called auto electricians VSS

[MarkTVS 209]

Hope you’ll be getting their diagnostic charge back! And surely your garage will be footing the bill as they broke it?

[It's me 611]

glasshopper has lot too lern

[Stalker 180]

16 hours ago, andymc1973 said:

genuine knock sensor fixed, shit performance from the so called auto electricians VSS

Ask them for your money back.

To be fair, its probably a learning curve for them too.

[andymc1973 199]

they told me it would be £500 if they had fixed it, it sticks as they tell you how clever they are and miss the obvious, they even told me to try super unleaded

[It's me 611]

9 minutes ago, andymc1973 said:

they even told me to try super unleaded

well im glad i put my coffee cup down before reading this

 

[TangoVictor32 90]

4 hours ago, andymc1973 said:

They even told me to try super unleaded

When they say shit like this you know they're talking shit 

[MarkTVS 209]

4 hours ago, andymc1973 said:

they told me it would be £500 if they had fixed it, it sticks as they tell you how clever they are and miss the obvious, they even told me to try super unleaded

That baffles me, at my workshop if we break something we foot the bill to fix it, if they broke the knock sensor it’s their fault not yours, I’d be finding a more reliable workshop if I were you.