Fiat 500 Mileage Flashing On Speedo

[Dealer 54]

Just got a 2012 model in, mileage flashes constantly on the speedometer, anyone had this problem? Driven a fair amount in it, still persists, knocked ignition on and off, still persists, removed battery for ten mins........ Still persists! 

No more fiat's! 

[Stalker 180]

Yes it needs it’s proxy alignment done, it’s a simple enough job on proper fiat diagnostics. 

[It's me 615]

hi

its usually because someone has swapped the dash pod with a lower mileage unit

have you done all checks to certainer mileage

pre buying

sorry to be the purveyor but it might be wise to backtrack on the deal

[Dealer 54]

1 minute ago, boring dave said:

hi

its usually because someone has swapped the dash pod with a lower mileage unit

have you done all checks to certainer mileage

pre buying

sorry to be the purveyor but it might be wise to backtrack on the deal

I'll check on this, thanks. 

 

4 minutes ago, C B said:

Try reprogramming the whole car. 

Does everything work i.e radio, bluetooth, steering wheel buttons, parking sensors etc?

 

Everything works except the blue and me button on the steering wheel 

[It's me 615]

2 minutes ago, C B said:

My money is on the blue and me control unit

10 minutes ago, Stalker said:

 

these cars have eeprom in the speedo head,have done since 1999 to stop clocking

i cant believe blue would corrupt this

if im honest and i was being laid back

the car is clocked]

end of

to stop any litigation

in my opinion

[It's me 615]

Just now, C B said:

Could well have been clocked or had some wanker mileage device fitted to the speedo but the flashing mileage on these also indicates a can bus error. The fact the blue and me button is not working would also suggest a can bus error. 

no

flashing mileage shows as said earlier a proxy alinement's error

ie bci  isnt agreeing with speedo head

ie somethings changed

[lastyboy 23]

1 hour ago, Stalker said:

Yes it needs it’s proxy alignment done, it’s a simple enough job on proper fiat diagnostics. 

Agree with this 100%. Often happens after a battery change.

[Tom 164]

Very common on Fiat and later Ford KA. It can be affected by the blue & me. As above proxy alignment on Fiat diagnostics. 

[Dealer 54]

11 hours ago, boring dave said:

 

 

 

11 hours ago, C B said:

 

 

Thanks for the replies everyone, checked mot history etc and all appears fine. I'll get it hooked up for a proxy alignment and go from there. 

[whitestone679231 113]

my ex bought a new one of these so i know its nothing to do with being wizzed,,,when it was 4 yr old the mileage started flashing and blue+me stopped working, i left battery off overnight and all ok,,,, but fecking shit car, door handles broke off, windows packed in etc etc etc worse car ever

[andymc1973 199]

the Alfa I had had missing electrics stopping the canbus completing its cycle, can also be the blue and me though

[Dave2302 387]

16 hours ago, Stalker said:

Yes it needs it’s proxy alignment done, it’s a simple enough job on proper fiat diagnostics. 

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[It's me 615]

consider this if working on fiats a lot

https://www.gendan.co.uk/product_FESPKG.html

[Stalker 180]

2 hours ago, boring dave said:

consider this if working on fiats a lot

https://www.gendan.co.uk/product_FESPKG.html

Shouldn’t it be a link to a straight jacket 

[Dave2302 387]

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[Jorema 0]

Got this problem and more........... had new battery fitted in January and very soon had mile light flashing then lost Bluetooth, irritating but not life changing, then clock light starts flashing. Went away for two weeks, upon return car was lifeless. Charged battery but kept draining. Took to garage and after checking battery they diagnosed ecu fault ( checked by specialist) which is going to cost about £800 for new unit, although mechanic is trying to source secondhand one. Don’t like to question this but having read these comments I’m wondering whether it could actually be faulty battery, and where would that leave me after I’ve paid out for new ecu and still got a fault?

[premi-motor 7]

First off, disconnect the battery for 20 mins, reconnect and then see if that resets it.

Also, on some of the other forums, playing around with the factory sound system (aftermarket head unit, speakers etc) can also cause the flash. Maybe someone changed the stereo and replaced it back to standard when selling the car?

 

 

[It's me 615]

 the factory head units cause parasitic drain in fiats like these

highly unlikely to be a bsi problem

ideally you need an auto electrician to isolate the drain ie disconnect ice unit and go from there

so many people just want to blame ecus makes me think they have a vested interest (kickback~)

 

[Arfur Dealy 823]

Fiat have just drained me of £550 for a flashing odo, it was a failed module or something... yeah yeah.... 

[KGov 0]

@Dealer - I'm having the same issue with a 2012 Fiat 500. Did you find a fix for this?

Thanks!

[James Bush 95]

If bluetooth isn't operating it'll be the Blue and Me unit - the speedos flash on Fiat and Alfa to indicate a none engine related issue. We've replaced a good few blue and me units. Can buy a second hand one, plug and play and they're located behind the glovebox, once fitted do a proxy alignment, it would be worth doing this first just to see if it cures the issue. Very common and we've replaced around 10 this year. We normally find its been caused by some aftermarket electric item been fitted, most common on the Punto is an insurance black box but others are hard wired dashcams, different head units etc. Any decent diagnostic machine will perform the proxy alignment, we use Snapon.

Edited September 3, 2019 by James Bush

[KGov 0]

Thanks @James Bush, thats really helpful. 

Approx. how much am I expecting to pay for a blue and me unit including fitting? 

On a side note, does the flashing mileage / blue and me issue affect the battery at all? I've recently installed a new battery and it seems to die if car is not used within 3 - 5 days. 

Thanks

 

 

[James Bush 95]

I'd probably do a proxy alignment and see if that solves it. If not diagnostic scan should point to if its a Blue and Me module failure. If it is you can pick the modules up off ebay for £40-£50, just make sure its the same part number and then its about 1-2 hours labour. 

I'd check for an insurance black box type thing, which if its a Punto tend to be fitted behind the glovebox, I now some insurance companies now don't offer black boxes on Fiats and Alfa due to the issues they cause. 

[jamiehouten 0]

Hi,

I have had this issue on a 2011 500 Abarth. Bluetooth control buttons on the steering wheel inoperative and flashing odometer resulting in drained battery. Tried to do a proxi alignment and it failed. We cleared the fail codes after changing the battery (because it is being drained after a couple of days) and then the only code remaining was U173387 convergence telematic module - Missing message. 

Is this the name for the blue and me module? Does anyone know of a guide for gaining access to the blue and me module so I can get the correct part number?

[Boycie 30]

4 hours ago, jamiehouten said:

Hi,

I have had this issue on a 2011 500 Abarth. Bluetooth control buttons on the steering wheel inoperative and flashing odometer resulting in drained battery. Tried to do a proxi alignment and it failed. We cleared the fail codes after changing the battery (because it is being drained after a couple of days) and then the only code remaining was U173387 convergence telematic module - Missing message. 

Is this the name for the blue and me module? Does anyone know of a guide for gaining access to the blue and me module so I can get the correct part number?

Wasn't U173387 sunk in the Atlantic in 1944?