High oil usage - Audi 1.8 tfsi petrol

[Grantlfc81 88]

Has anybody had the high consumption issue with any 2.0 - 1.8 tfsi engines? 2009 Plate using around 1 litre of oil every 300-600 miles - according to the customer

I sold the car 4 months ago and the customer was complaining of the oil light keep coming on. We had it back after 3500 miles and he says he topped it up about 6-7 times. Fortunately I put him into another car and made a real nice lump on it. Unfortunately I now have a car that I’m having to drive to see if this is the case. I’ve topped it up to the max level and headed off from the forecourt and will see how long it is before the oil light comes on again.

The question is, what do I now do with this car if it is in fact drinking oil?

[umesh 336]

Common fault ! Talk to Audi to see if this one qualifies for the cars that were subject to repair , Audi paid for some yo have new engines but if it’s not full Audi history that may be their way of refusal. 

[Grantlfc81 88]

I’m pretty sure it has about 7 Audi stamps but I don’t really want the thing stuck in Audi for 7 weeks.

[Max Branning 149]

Didnt EPV have this exact same problem with a customer recently?

Check through some of his old posts cant remember what the outcome was ?

[EPV 631]

11 minutes ago, Max Branning said:

Didnt EPV have this exact same problem with a customer recently?

Check through some of his old posts cant remember what the outcome was ?

True, I did. 

The customer was aware when he bought it that the 2.0 engines drank oil but he was surprised at the 1.8 drinking as much as it was. He had a couple of other niggles which I sorted and as a gesture and at the recommendation of a VAG specialist, who has a GTI 30 edition himself, the oil was changed to a thicker grade (I think 5/40w) which seemed to slow down the consumption for said VAG Indy in his GTI  

That was 2 months ago and I haven’t heard from the customer again. It could be that he’s had enough and sold it or, it may have slowed down the consumption enough for him to be living with it. 

Unless it’s a full Audi history then they won’t want to know. It wouldn’t stop me buying these cars, they sell well and don’t all drink oil excessively. 

[Nick M.K. 574]

Not great engines and now sadly everyone in the Greater London area wants them instead of the TDIs

[grant8064 219]

Had an 09 Octavia with the same engine and same issue, 1 litre every 400 miles. Refunded customer and took it to our local Skoda for investigation, already knowing exactly what the issue was, with hope because it is such a well publicised issue ( I only realised this after buying the bloody thing). From day one the cheeky c**t service manager did everything but admit it verbally, smiles, smirks the lot, basically laughed in our faces, one of those that blames the world for his crap job that he's ended up in. After weeks of pissing about they kicked it back at us because one stamp in nine years was an indie. I hope you have more joy than we did. 

[KARLOS1982 0]

1.8 tfsi is on my blacklist... there is a lot of things going wrong with them....cars with these engines weren't doing so many miles... 08 plates with these engine are getting to 100k marks now when they start cause trouble..big way..

[Dealer 54]

I've had this issue, will give you more info tomorrow Grant........it's late and I'm shattered. 

[Ek cars 17]

Top oil up and punt it from the co-op car park and price 500 less than rest with same mileage to shift it then eat the sim card, ps i also had a Skoda Octavia 2.0 tfsi vrs with a serious oil leak which was between gearbox and engine.

Edited January 11, 2019 by Ek cars

[Arfur Dealy 823]

The 1.8 and 2.0 TFSI are on my don’t touch with a barge pole list. 

[James01 21]

As everyone else has stated is a well known fault with the pistons or the rings.

Audi day allow up to 1000 miles per litre and even state it in the owners manual, any more is deemed excessive.

Is a costly repair unfortunately.

[Grantlfc81 88]

1 hour ago, Arfur Dealy said:

The 1.8 and 2.0 TFSI are on my don’t touch with a barge pole list. 

You’re quite doom and gloom

7 hours ago, Dealer said:

I've had this issue, will give you more info tomorrow Grant........it's late and I'm shattered. 

Thank you. I’ve also been told changing the PCV can really help.

[Arfur Dealy 823]

49 minutes ago, Grantlfc81 said:

You’re quite doom and gloom

If making an educated buying decision on the basis of the unreliability of a shite engine is “doom and gloom” then yes, I am the epitome of doom and gloom.  

[EPV 631]

1 hour ago, James01 said:

As everyone else has stated is a well known fault with the pistons or the rings.

Audi day allow up to 1000 miles per litre and even state it in the owners manual, any more is deemed excessive.

Is a costly repair unfortunately.

1000km per litre. 

[Rory RSC 596]

47 minutes ago, Arfur Dealy said:

If making an educated buying decision on the basis of the unreliability of a shite engine is “doom and gloom” then yes, I am the epitome of doom and gloom.  

I am of the same doom and gloom view and these are on my don't buy list to.

[trade vet 702]

7 hours ago, Ek cars said:

Top oil up and punt it from the co-op car park and price 500 less than rest with same mileage to shift it then eat the sim card, ps i also had a Skoda Octavia 2.0 tfsi vrs with a serious oil leak which was between gearbox and engine.

Unless you were joking.With advice like that,would you not be better off selling time shares in Tenerife or somewhere because you won’t go far in this job.

[James01 21]

These are similar to the bmw n43 engine, I know they are awful things and once in a while one will sting you but they sell so I cannot help myself! 

[Nick M.K. 574]

14 minutes ago, trade vet said:

Unless you were joking

It sounds to me like he was, especially about eating the sim card. The new nano sims taste awful.

[Dave2302 387]

It's a love hate thing for me...................

I don't buy VAG products full stop, and won't take a px either, as a Sales Car they are tick tock tick tock junk 

On the other hand, I earn plenty fixing the bloody things through the workshop 

Even the better local ones that come in for a service need at least one major fault addressing 

 

I absolutely love the MOT regs from recent years, now that almost any Light on Dash is a fail 

[Nick M.K. 574]

39 minutes ago, Rory RSC said:

I am of the same doom and gloom view

It's just about being optimistic, it's about numbers. When you have dozens of cars in stock you can not afford several ticking time bombs. The legal comeback time for a major AND such well known fault can be up to 6 years post sale. 

[Dave2302 387]

2 minutes ago, Nick M.K. said:

for a major AND such well known fault can be up to 6 years post sale. 

Could you please explain that Nick, something I've never heard of on a used Car ???????????

[Nick M.K. 574]

Sure. But most dealers would sleep better if they didn’t know: 

The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013 can be used instead of CRA by a customer to take a dealer to court for breach of conract. This can be for faults found up to 6 years post sale. The onus is on that consumer to prove that the fault WAS present at the point of sale. Normally very difficult but not for well known common faults which usually start soon after manufacture. 

[EPV 631]

30 minutes ago, Dave2302 said:

Could you please explain that Nick, something I've never heard of on a used Car ???????????

The CRA doesn’t apply to 6 months but 6 years. Very extreme circumstances obviously but if a punter can prove at the POS that the fault was there, up to 6 years later, they can make a case under the CRA. 

[Dave2302 387]

FFS I've heard it all now !!

It doesn't surprise me. If I was down South with you guys, I'd be cutting peoples grass or cleaning bloody windows by now !!

No wonder there is so much stress amongst Car Dealers these days. I was reading some ot the silly 'billy' stories the other day, and although i wouldn't come back to England I was thinking i really miss some of that .....................

Reality Check !! Yeah I miss it for all of 5 minutes

I really think this nanny state has gone waaaaaay too far, a Used Car is just that, it is not a New Car, jeez the Mfrs only Warranty the bloody things for ~ 5 years

Have you ever been to USA and bought a used car off a lot ? We did that and drove across states, real eye opener as to the shit they sell, caveat emptor !!

I likened it to our old "Bomb Site" Traders back in the 1980's 

Thanks Nick & EPV