andymc1973 199 Posted August 24, 2018 Hi all, I have 2 cars at the body shop and it appears he hasn't been paying his rent and they have padlocked the unit with both my cars inside, whilst I have sympathies with the landlord whats the legal position on getting my cars back, the painter wants shot with shit for letting this happen, all help appreciated ta Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dealer 54 Posted August 24, 2018 Angle grinder and the spare keys would be one of my first thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andymc1973 199 Posted August 24, 2018 criminal damage isnt it though dont have spare keys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justina3 518 Posted August 24, 2018 Try the police he has no legal claim to your goods they might reason with him, whilst I feel they might pull it’s a civil matter push the angle in your view it’s theft. That’s what I would try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stalker 180 Posted August 24, 2018 You still have title to them. However the landlord shouldn’t release them without confirmation as to who they belong to.... and I guess he needs his tenant to confirm. I’d get all Liam Neeson on the painter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andymc1973 199 Posted August 24, 2018 landlord is away and not replying to emails, what is it with tradesmen in this industry, if its not crap mechanics its now dodgy painters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EPV 631 Posted August 24, 2018 Mate I feel so bad for you, if something like that happened to me I'd be absolutely livid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andymc1973 199 Posted August 24, 2018 painters, mechanics etc etc couldn't give a hoot the painter is too thick to worry about Liam Neeson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EPV 631 Posted August 24, 2018 Criminal damage or not I would 100% be considering approaching a pair of scallies and giving them a rather large incentive to relieve the gate of its padlock. Nobody is any the wiser, you went down to the yard this morning to see if anyone was about and found the gates open and took your property back, officer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andymc1973 199 Posted August 24, 2018 i will just do it myself, the problem is there is a watchman who would call the police Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EPV 631 Posted August 24, 2018 The scallies could persuade him not to You can tell I've watched too many episodes of the sopranos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me 615 Posted August 24, 2018 has the locks been changed by the landlord or a bailiff if bailiff and you enter you may go to prison if convicted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AutoJacob 34 Posted August 24, 2018 Cut it, Cut it..! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me 615 Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, andymc1973 said: no idea there should be a note on the door explaining if he has done it legally if there is no note then he is witholding your right to your property which i believe is an offence obviously you need legal help from a solicitor knowledgeable about commercial property laws on no account break in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andymc1973 199 Posted August 24, 2018 or he could just meet me and i prove title, is that not the easiest way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me 615 Posted August 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, andymc1973 said: or he could just meet me and i prove title, is that not the easiest way of course,does he not have a registered office? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EPV 631 Posted August 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, boring dave said: has the locks been changed by the landlord or a bailiff if bailiff and you enter you may go to prison if convicted Again, someone gets paid to do it, you walk in and collect your property and that's all she wrote. You can prove ownership of the vehicles they are yours and not the landlords, bailiffs or anyone elses. You play dumb, say you went down in the morning to see if anyone had turned up for work and the gates were wide open so you took your cars. End of. Come on, where's the drama needed on a Friday night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andymc1973 199 Posted August 24, 2018 there are cameras! I cant go to jail over a 2007 Mondeo and a 2010 Fiat 500, free the Chester one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metcars 397 Posted August 24, 2018 I think you'll need some legal advice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EPV 631 Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, andymc1973 said: there are cameras! I cant go to jail over a 2007 Mondeo and a 2010 Fiat 500, free the Chester one You should go to jail for painting a fucking 2007 mondeo 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andymc1973 199 Posted August 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, boring dave said: has the locks been changed by the landlord or a bailiff if bailiff and you enter you may go to prison if convicted really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparky 274 Posted August 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, EPV said: You should go to jail for painting a fucking 2007 mondeo lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tradegirl 112 Posted August 24, 2018 Had this with a polish mechanic. Turned out to be dodgy as hell. They locked one of our engines in the premises and a BMW as I recall, because the mechanic owed the landlord money. The landlord was a shady bugger. We couldn't exactly mess with him. The engine wasn't even finished, but the mechanic still asked us for payment, which he gave to the landlord and they then released our things. I'm pretty sure we called the police and they said it was a civil matter. Sorry Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me 615 Posted August 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, andymc1973 said: really? 12 minutes ago, EPV said: Again, someone gets paid to do it, you walk in and collect your property and that's all she wrote. You can prove ownership of the vehicles they are yours and not the landlords, bailiffs or anyone elses. You play dumb, say you went down in the morning to see if anyone had turned up for work and the gates were wide open so you took your cars. End of. Come on, where's the drama needed on a Friday night? 12 minutes ago, EPV said: the landlord will not be aware these cars are not owned by a 3rd party so if he has done his job properly he should have used the local bailiff company to go with him and give the tenant a walk in possession order,this means nothing can be removed for 7 days in which time the tenant can find the funds to pay the dept it is a criminal offence if this has been done and not only will you find your insurance dearer you will have to declare it on your trade plate renewal etc when you come out of durham jail this is not to be taken lightly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites