Scratch Repair

[Arfur Dealy 823]

To all the newbies out there, here is a genuinely good short video on how to do minor scratch repairs. I know there are lots of repair vids on YouTube but this guy explains it well and is credible.

 

[justina3 518]

A decent enough video but scratch x is quite a harsh compound that will show maring soon after, I would have refined it a lot further than that adding a wax straight on top isnt going to do much once it settles. 

 

[EPV 631]

Agreed it’s a good video but the reality is, most scratches you’ll want to remove will be beyond the clearcoat and need some kind of paint. I wetsand all the time to remove what I can or, reduce the appearance if it’s a deep scratch. I’ve started experimenting with paint and blending solution, mixed results so far but I reckon with a little practice it will be a good technique. 

[trade vet 702]

Dark colours,but especially black and dark blue.....light scratches and bonnet stone chips. Mix dark coloured printers ink with tyre slick and rub on.Polish off with wax....it works and lasts for ages,don’t recall having any complaints if chips reappeared.

[justina3 518]

15 minutes ago, EPV said:

Agreed it’s a good video but the reality is, most scratches you’ll want to remove will be beyond the clearcoat and need some kind of paint. I wetsand all the time to remove what I can or, reduce the appearance if it’s a deep scratch. I’ve started experimenting with paint and blending solution, mixed results so far but I reckon with a little practice it will be a good technique. 

Its well worth playing we have the paint mixed for us from our local paint shop comes in the usual small tube we just use our own smaller brush heads as the one in the pot you can paint a house with there so thick. 

We recently been playing with carbon tips to shave the excess paint of festool is the favorite so far, like you mixed results darker colors works very well on whites and silvers are a right pain. 

 

[It's me 615]

don't do it          this is to the link shown,try this on say a mazda 6 and just cry afterwards

10 minutes ago, justina3 said:

Its well worth playing we have the paint mixed for us from our local paint shop comes in the usual small tube we just use our own smaller brush heads as the one in the pot you can paint a house with there so thick. 

We recently been playing with carbon tips to shave the excess paint of festool is the favorite so far, like you mixed results darker colors works very well on whites and silvers are a right pain. 

 

matchsticks work well shave them down for very small scratches

Edited August 6, 2018 by mrs maybe

[EPV 631]

20 minutes ago, justina3 said:

Its well worth playing we have the paint mixed for us from our local paint shop comes in the usual small tube we just use our own smaller brush heads as the one in the pot you can paint a house with there so thick. 

We recently been playing with carbon tips to shave the excess paint of festool is the favorite so far, like you mixed results darker colors works very well on whites and silvers are a right pain. 

 

That's the key if I could develop a way of shaving the excess paint off I'd be laughing. The blending solution is tricky as you have to get it just right, leave it too long and it's dry and proud, too quick and you just end up wiping the paint out of the scratch. I was using a stanley knife blade but that's hit and miss and I sometimes end up doing more harm than good.

[MattR 177]

its a helpful video, as are all the other tips - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt but worth a go to avoid the queue at the bodyshop. cotton buds can be good for touch ins

[MSP Motors 39]

4 minutes ago, EPV said:

That's the key if I could develop a way of shaving the excess paint off I'd be laughing. The blending solution is tricky as you have to get it just right, leave it too long and it's dry and proud, too quick and you just end up wiping the paint out of the scratch. I was using a stanley knife blade but that's hit and miss and I sometimes end up doing more harm than good.

Shave it off with a razor blade, 1500, 2000, trizac, polish

[EPV 631]

2 minutes ago, MSP Motors said:

Shave it off with a razor blade, 1500, 2000, trizac, polish

yeah, that's the usual process although it's razor, 1500, 3000 (both trizac pads) and them 3M perfect it system (green, yellow, blue) and if done right it's brilliant but I was making more scratches with the razor blade. It's almost too aggressive.

[MSP Motors 39]

2 minutes ago, EPV said:

yeah, that's the usual process although it's razor, 1500, 3000 (both trizac pads) and them 3M perfect it system (green, yellow, blue) and if done right it's brilliant but I was making more scratches with the razor blade. It's almost too aggressive.

It takes ages to master the razor blade, but it's commonly used in body shops to scrape runs off and has served me well down the years.

[justina3 518]

5 minutes ago, EPV said:

yeah, that's the usual process although it's razor, 1500, 3000 (both trizac pads) and them 3M perfect it system (green, yellow, blue) and if done right it's brilliant but I was making more scratches with the razor blade. It's almost too aggressive.

Festool Spot repair scraper LZK-HM

 

thats the bad boy you need amazing bit of kit 

[MSP Motors 39]

I would also definitely used 2000 in between 1500 and 3000 as the scratch marks seem to show through a lot more on old paint than soft.

1 minute ago, justina3 said:

Festool Spot repair scraper LZK-HM

 

thats the bad boy you need amazing bit of kit 

I'm sure that's a lovely tool..... However fuck my life. I'm tight and would have sleepless night spending £50 on that!

[justina3 518]

8 minutes ago, EPV said:

yeah, that's the usual process although it's razor, 1500, 3000 (both trizac pads) and them 3M perfect it system (green, yellow, blue) and if done right it's brilliant but I was making more scratches with the razor blade. It's almost too aggressive.

just thinking thats a very old range of polishes, modern nano technology has flown past them schol s20 should replace all three of them with different heads on the machine.

[MSP Motors 39]

I just spent £130 on tornador black cleaning gun and I'm still having nightmares.... However what a game changer that thing is.

[EPV 631]

6 minutes ago, justina3 said:

Festool Spot repair scraper LZK-HM

 

thats the bad boy you need amazing bit of kit 

LIKE

[It's me 615]

it works

i have the blue tool ,it does work but you have to be very careful with it i got mine from power-tec

the festool looks brilliant but im sure i would drop it and destroy it first time out

[EPV 631]

4 minutes ago, justina3 said:

just thinking thats a very old range of polishes, modern nano technology has flown past them schol s20 should replace all three of them with different heads on the machine.

Old or not, they are excellent. Ok a bit dusty but i can mop to a mirror swirl free finish with that system.

 

With that Festool, do you wait for the paint to cure completely?

[MSP Motors 39]

1 minute ago, mrs maybe said:

it works

i have the blue tool ,it does work but you have to be very careful with it i got mine from power-tec

the festool looks brilliant but im sure i would drop it and destroy it first time out

thats some fucking run tho!

[justina3 518]

Instead of watching midget porn, i switched to following the guys over on detailing world some of the work they do is just out of this world, we have learnt a massive amount from there and they often have good deals on offer as well so we always check there before ordering any cleaning kit. 

There right up there for new products and they do good reviews so you dont get sucked into buying the latest fad. 

 

7 minutes ago, EPV said:

Old or not, they are excellent. Ok a bit dusty but i can mop to a mirror swirl free finish with that system.

 

With that Festool, do you wait for the paint to cure completely?

I wasnt knocking them they where our go to system for donkies years, FCP is just so bloody dusty and if you want to polish the whole car it takes an age, where as these modern polishes can do it in one or two passes. 

Yep the paint has to be fully set over night ideally to get the best results. 

 

[metcars 397]

10 minutes ago, justina3 said:

Instead of watching midget porn, i switched to following the guys over on detailing world some of the work they do is just out of this world, we have learnt a massive amount from there and they often have good deals on offer as well so we always check there before ordering any cleaning kit. 

There right up there for new products and they do good reviews so you dont get sucked into buying the latest fad. 

 

It's a shame Bridget the midget doesn't do detailing?

[EPV 631]

14 minutes ago, justina3 said:

Instead of watching midget porn, i switched to following the guys over on detailing world some of the work they do is just out of this world, we have learnt a massive amount from there and they often have good deals on offer as well so we always check there before ordering any cleaning kit. 

There right up there for new products and they do good reviews so you dont get sucked into buying the latest fad. 

 

I wasnt knocking them they where our go to system for donkies years, FCP is just so bloody dusty and if you want to polish the whole car it takes an age, where as these modern polishes can do it in one or two passes. 

Yep the paint has to be fully set over night ideally to get the best results. 

 

I'll give those a go when my 3M stuff runs out. Ordered that Festool tool, looks exactly what I need.

[justina3 518]

7 minutes ago, EPV said:

I'll give those a go when my 3M stuff runs out. Ordered that Festool tool, looks exactly what I need.

Once you have got to grips with it really is a cracking bit of kit, just remember to put the green rope around your head the end is very easy to blunt if you drop it.

 

[Del Boy 76]

Am I understanding this right.. You put the paint on thick then use this Festool to cut it back once its gone off?

 

[justina3 518]

3 minutes ago, Del Boy said:

Am I understanding this right.. You put the paint on thick then use this Festool to cut it back once its gone off?

 

Well not thick, or you will have to do loads of work, anyone who has tried to touch up a scratch will know it never sits flush with the original paint and therefore stands out like a sore thumb these tools allow you shave of the new paint and level it with the old paint a quick once over with a compound and it SHOULD look as good as new or at least 90% better and the general public passable.