Thanks for that, much appreciated. I'm hoping to finalise my trade insurance next week. Until then I can't go too in depth on manheim's site but I do like what I see and can see the benefits of online auctions. I'm thinking I'll stick to petrol for now and smaller cars to begin with. I've also been offered a few cars privately recently through my work (they had no idea I was interested in trading), so may follow up and see if I can get a bargain. One is an auto mini with 28k miles, could be a good earner at the right price form what I've seen on hpi valuations. Thanks again for your reply, really appreciate it.