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/\ /\ /\ agreed Also ................ I cannot believe the number of numpties that are selling Cars these days, and do not realise that the only way to buy a Car for resale is to work backwards from (a sensible) amount that you can Retail it for. No wonder there are so many noobs on here moaning that they are not getting decent profits.

Personally, I wish all auctions were online only. It is how I buy but I do understand, those who attend do have an advantage. If nothing else, no Online fee. In my opinion, there should be a charge to attend physically and free Online if they want to encourage more ebidding.

The thing is, how long until the vendors realise they are doing all the hard work, DIY it and cut out the middle men ? Fleet companies already do direct sales. BCA basically bend over backwards for the big vendors and practically charge them nothing to gain market share and buyers fees.

I can see the Retail Advert ..................... 1 previous owner, now deceased, Mr Wally Russ who had an unfortunate incident with a roll of 80 grit and a Roman Candle ...................................

I was really referring to noobie numpties, but as usual I engaged type before brain What I was trying to say was that retail back is a good way of learning without too many fuck ups. I'm fairly sure you have been in this game long enough now to know what you are prepared to pay for a given Automobile, my 43 year apprenticeship can do the math off the cuff without looking at retails, but if it's something oddball, I'll refer to what I think it'll retail for and work back Like my recent 2007 Doblo Wheelchair Wagon, non runner that I flipped recently. When the owner offered it me I didn't have a clue, but 10 minutes and it was sussed out It did help that I knew exactly who would buy it once I'd sorted it and prepped it, and they did Basically I wanna nick the "whatever" off it's seller or I can't be arsed, comes back to what I've said before about busy fool syndrome lol

Paddock wood station car park, station approach, tn126er.

An old neighbour of ours used to think if she saw a car with sold on my site we had that whole amount to spend, she just could not understand we only got a small perecentage, most employed people I know do not understand the difference between margin and profit.

That's how you sell 40 per month

I usually work to Autotraders suggested profit margin of £150 / £200 per car. Anything else is just greedy to be honest.

OK, let me put it an easier way - you want £800 (not enough gross IMO but let's use that). Retail £4995 Margin Target £800 Buyers fees £250 Transport £100 Valet £50 MOT £30 Servicing £200 Paintwork £200 Advertising £50 + any other costs Maximum Bid = £3,315 The answer is IT IS ALL IN THE BUYING