NacMan 67 Posted November 2, 2019 Its one thing after another with BCAs poor reports... Last week the service history wasn't anything near what the lot stated, alongside the a/c vents smashed in, door handle chrome ripped away and then on my drive back the radiator cap was loose! Luckily I smelt it before it burnt out. The manager keeps delaying stating hes waiting for the vendor to reply! Joke! This week my 1 series was driven over by a bca logistics driver, I think he waited until it was dark until he got here as he was delaying a lot. The bumper was scuffed in two places bigger than my hand, not on the report, the door was scratched over 100mm thru paint bca stated 25mm, the boot was soiled heavy alongside the leather seats and floor mats were 3 instead of 4 the report said lightly soiled, the doorpockets were full of ash, rubbish and the roof lining too with cigarette packets. I may be picky but this was a grade 3! How much would you say these damages are worth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) I know it not always possible but i always try and view in person or send someone i trust to do so even get to know one contact in the each auction centre all auctions grading is only as good as the man grading it I've seen grades 3 thats should have been grade 2s and seen grade 1s that should have been 2s in-fact i asked once if they had now employed stevie wonder and ray Charles to do there grading I just put it down as part of the job now . Though sometimes in works the other way too bought a focus st that was graded a 2 had a tiny and i mean tiny mark on it and that was it Edited November 2, 2019 by Casper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHM 994 Posted November 3, 2019 When at the block I sometimes see total pigs getting knocked down to the Internet for decent money & think sarcastically ‘that’ll be a nice surprise for the buyer’. A couple of times recently I’ve dipped my toe into the chilly waters of online bidding. To summarise, it’s just as well I have a painter & mechanic who work for next to f.a. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, BHM said: When at the block I sometimes see total pigs getting knocked down to the Internet for decent money & think sarcastically ‘that’ll be a nice surprise for the buyer’. A couple of times recently I’ve dipped my toe into the chilly waters of online bidding. To summarise, it’s just as well I have a painter & mechanic who work for next to f.a. 100 percent agree with your comments . Ive seen it a few times as well and thought wait till he sees the other side . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Horgan 564 Posted November 3, 2019 Every single BCA has a different set of standards when looking at grading cars . As BHM Says we see it all the time when at auctions , Complete chunks of mis described crap going online for good money . Poor Previous repair , Whole side of car Badly painted Windscreen missed on report , Cracked . Pan Roof Cracked , Not on report Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 13 hours ago, Casper said: I know it not always possible but i always try and view in person or send someone i trust to do so even get to know one contact in the each auction centre all auctions grading is only as good as the man grading it I've seen grades 3 thats should have been grade 2s and seen grade 1s that should have been 2s in-fact i asked once if they had now employed stevie wonder and ray Charles to do there grading I just put it down as part of the job now . Though sometimes in works the other way too bought a focus st that was graded a 2 had a tiny and i mean tiny mark on it and that was it Well the 1 series, the pulley is jumping, the engines squeaking away and theres now an oil like. Im never touching an Alphabet car again and I am rejecting the vehicle 24 minutes ago, David Horgan said: Every single BCA has a different set of standards when looking at grading cars . As BHM Says we see it all the time when at auctions , Complete chunks of mis described crap going online for good money . Poor Previous repair , Whole side of car Badly painted Windscreen missed on report , Cracked . Pan Roof Cracked , Not on report They have to pay you out or take the vehicle back as its misdescribed If I keep this now ill have it back with me in a week when I sell it . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, NacMan said: Well the 1 series, the pulley is jumping, the engines squeaking away and theres now an oil like. Im never touching an Alphabet car again and I am rejecting the vehicle They have to pay you out or take the vehicle back as its misdescribed If I keep this now ill have it back with me in a week when I sell it . I agree with bhm and David on this one though I get your point nacman Edited November 3, 2019 by Casper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Casper said: I agree with bhm and David on this one though I get your point nacman So you think I should keep a knackered car they have appraised totally wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, NacMan said: So you think I should keep a knackered car they have appraised totally wrong. No as I said I get your point so I'm saying you should call them and take it up with them But in general as per the appraisal as I said in the previous post it's down to whose appreasing them as I said earlier some times I think it's done by Stevie wonder and ray Charles I've seen a grade 1 that I would grade a 3 and vice Versa but that's went on years and we are never going to change it also if you or I put a car in you can bet they would look more favourable on a car from a large dealer group etc than a small motor trader with there grading as an auction manager once said to me straight from his mouth they don't care about the buyer there contract is to do the best for there sellers so no point arguing . I don't agree it is right but it's the way it's always been unfournately however I do wish you all the best by all means call and explain your situation focus more on the engine troubles if it was me see if you can get something sorted and keep up posted I wish you all the best and good luck Edited November 3, 2019 by Casper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Casper said: No as I said I get your point so I'm saying you should call them and take it up with them But in general as per the appraisal as I said in the previous post it's down to whose appreasing them as I said earlier some times I think it's done by Stevie wonder and ray Charles I've seen a grade 1 that I would grade a 3 and vice Versa but that's went on years and we are never going to change it also if you or I put a car in you can bet they would look more favourable on a car from a large dealer group etc than a small motor trader with there grading as an auction manager once said to me straight from his mouth they don't care about the buyer there contract is to do the best for there sellers so no point arguing . I don't agree it is right but it's the way it's always been unfournately however I do wish you all the best by all means call and explain your situation focus more on the engine troubles if it was me see if you can get something sorted and keep up posted I wish you all the best and good luck Thanks. Casper I think I mis understood. I have contacted them the day the driver brought it to me. Monday I should have something back. No matter who appraises them if it isn't appraised right they should be sacked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, NacMan said: Thanks. Casper I think I mis understood. I have contacted them the day the driver brought it to me. Monday I should have something back. No matter who appraises them if it isn't appraised right they should be sacked No worries .. the thing is I guess a lot of the people who appraise them don't come from a motor trade background I actually know a guy he used to do to it he was a photographer before that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Horgan 564 Posted November 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Casper said: No worries .. the thing is I guess a lot of the people who appraise them don't come from a motor trade background I actually know a guy he used to do to it he was a photographer before that One guy in Notts BCA doesn't even look at them properly , just wanders round noting a few things down , I wouldn't pay him in bent washers . All this appraisal looks good on paper or when they all talk about ,it but in reality how can it work . They can only use set phrases to describe what they see if they look in the first place . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 3, 2019 33 minutes ago, David Horgan said: One guy in Notts BCA doesn't even look at them properly , just wanders round noting a few things down , I wouldn't pay him in bent washers . All this appraisal looks good on paper or when they all talk about ,it but in reality how can it work . They can only use set phrases to describe what they see if they look in the first place . I do.my own appraisals david lol when on site thing is I've guys calling me up to look over cars at the auctions cause they also don't trust the grading system as you say it just to look good on paper half the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Casper said: I do.my own appraisals david lol when on site thing is I've guys calling me up to look over cars at the auctions cause they also don't trust the grading system as you say it just to look good on paper half the time Which BCA are you generally at? Could take a look at some cars for me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, twerp said: A disproportionate amount of Alphabet cars are knackered So there all shit? And dont follow the report? 42 minutes ago, twerp said: A disproportionate amount of Alphabet cars are knackered Reckon they will accept the return? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, NacMan said: Which BCA are you generally at? Could take a look at some cars for me Haha knew that was coming . No lol .. i only really do it now for guys I've worked for and did work with in the past or businesses I'm involved with as well as my own stuff .im only involved with 4 close friends now as well as my own own stuff as i said before any spare time i have after now is spend caring for my dad who has dementia and Alzheimer's .and to be honest i know we all need to make a living but as long as i get by he the most important thing he's looked after me now its my turn . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 Ah right. So what do you think will they fix the pulley or take the car back and the scuffs and scratches extra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDM1983 28 Posted November 3, 2019 9 hours ago, BHM said: When at the block I sometimes see total pigs getting knocked down to the Internet for decent money & think sarcastically ‘that’ll be a nice surprise for the buyer’. A couple of times recently I’ve dipped my toe into the chilly waters of online bidding. To summarise, it’s just as well I have a painter & mechanic who work for next to f.a. Happened to me the other day, 1st time online bidding as well, everything stacked up on the car and it was supposedly a grade 3. In reality, the car is total creature, grade 4 at best. Had I of been at the block, wouldn’t even have bid on it. Will be a while before I try online again I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, JDM1983 said: Happened to me the other day, 1st time online bidding as well, everything stacked up on the car and it was supposedly a grade 3. In reality, the car is total creature, grade 4 at best. Had I of been at the block, wouldn’t even have bid on it. Will be a while before I try online again I think. Are you returning or getting anything knocked off? I don't pay extra fees online to have shit sent to my door. I always bid online very rare I have issues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDM1983 28 Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, NacMan said: Are you returning or getting anything knocked off? I don't pay extra fees online to have shit sent to my door. I always bid online very rare I have issues No, I’ve just swallowed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, JDM1983 said: No, I’ve just swallowed it. I'm not taking a piece of shit Lol, why should I keep there wrongly appraised Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casper 272 Posted November 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, NacMan said: Ah right. So what do you think will they fix the pulley or take the car back and the scuffs and scratches extra They may fix the pulley if it's not on the bca report I doubt if they will take it back though you may be lucky keep us posted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Casper said: They may fix the pulley if it's not on the bca report I doubt if they will take it back though you may be lucky keep us posted Yes everything was green on the mechanical report. I had an A3 a while back 14 plate noise on the engine and the door had a huge scratch down it. They took it back but that was when we were on a black card so that may have helped. I suppose we will just have to wait an see. Should get a call tomorrow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDM1983 28 Posted November 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, NacMan said: I'm not taking a piece of shit Lol, why should I keep there wrongly appraised Fair enough. I don’t buy much though so I don’t fancy my chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NacMan 67 Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, JDM1983 said: Fair enough. I don’t buy much though so I don’t fancy my chances. Ah right. I honestly believe that they are in the wrong 100% they need to get people who know their cars for the money they charge us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
