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  2. Posted · Edited by have a word with the wife

    On 5/27/2020 at 10:33 PM, have a word with the wife said:

    As we are unclear and the press are quoting car dealerships in the same paragraph as car showrooms I have gone to the very top in government  and asked the question. 

    today i received a reply to the question can all car dealerships open not just showrooms, i hope you find the following helpfull =

    Dear Sir/Madam

     

    Thank you for your email of 27th May about car dealers. I am replying on behalf of the Department.

     

    A full list of which businesses which were closed was set out in guidance.  This included car showrooms. These have been allowed to open from 1st June: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-press-conference-statement-25-may-2020. Until this point car dealers were allowed to open on-line with contactless delivery.

     

    As I hope you will appreciate, it is for business owners themselves with their comprehensive understanding of the goods and services that they provide and having reviewed the criteria, to determine whether or not they should remain closed

    We have published guidance on the general principles and how social distancing can be implemented in the workplace, as well as advice for customer facing businesses and for specific sectors who require people to go to work, including shops running delivery services.  The information can be found at: www.gov.uk/guidance/social-distancing-in-the-workplace-during-coronavirus-covid-19-sector-guidance.

    If you have any further Covid-19 enquiries, our Business Support webpage is updated on a daily basis with the latest information and guidance: www.businesssupport.gov.uk/, and a business support finder is available here:https://www.gov.uk/business-coronavirus-support-finder. We also have a free helpline available where businesses can talk to an advisor: 0800 998 1098. We would encourage you and your office to avail itself of this service or direct constituents to it as these are the quickest routes for obtaining answers. 

     

    I hope you find this response helpful.

    :)

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    4 hours ago, James Baggott said:

    Suggest me some others - always looking for interviewees

    Well trevor finn of course:lol:

    Look up his current business and then look at Tom Hartleys

    (Clue, derby :ph34r: ) then the chat with the new new man in town :rolleyes: could be very interesting ;)

  5. Posted · Edited by have a word with the wife

    On 5/25/2020 at 10:19 PM, Paul C said:

     you can't re-open on 1 June (and will need to wait until 15 June)???? Answers on a postcard.....

    As we are unclear and the press are quoting car dealerships in the same paragraph as car showrooms I have gone to the very top in government  and asked the question.

     

  6. Posted

    52 minutes ago, BHM said:

    Our local Asda, and all other shops, are rigidly policing the numbers shopping. At the local Asda they've erected barriers for queueing, you're instructed to sanitise your hands on entry (hahaha) and anyone caught not following the arrows is given 50 lashes with the cat o' nine tails. I believe they've also applied for planning permission for a gun turret so any transgressors of 2mtr distancing will be shot without warning.

    Told you, it's a new world :lol:

    aldi has got traffic lights !

    red, no entry

    amber get the wheels spinning on your trolley,

    green go !:wacko:

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  7. Posted

    21 minutes ago, Lakeside said:

    They can only reopen if the can adhere to the rules. I still can’t see how they can with so many people in a small space. They won’t want to limit numbers as it may lose buyers.

    Only option I can see is they limit it to the account holder only. No private buyers and no bringing your mate or your cousins. 

    • All businesses have to limit customers from the local paper shop to IKEA, it's the new world we will have to get used to unfortunately :(
    5 hours ago, Row said:

    But are they retail?

    Well anyone can walk in and buy so yes?

     

    2 hours ago, Casper said:

    Think it could be a while many auctions probably don't know there self heard from the owner of a large local building company thats he's unsure as it keeps changing he has.been given dates twice . so i guess it will be the the same for auctions and larger dealer groups 

    Well the new guidance is quite clear and comprehensive, as was the old, who can open, when they can open, and how to run a business that complies with the regulations, if he does not know this or studied the latest guidance should he be running the company?

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  8. Posted

     Auctions are open 15th June, with all the obvious restrictions, discouraging touching stock (no bonnet lifting no door opening ?) Amount of people allowed in dependant on floor space minus the floor space a vehicle takes up, no doubt the cafe will be takeaway only, marshalls to stop rule breaking and control in/out customers, so have fun balancing a pot of tea in one hand keeping 2 metres from jo public, not being allowed to look under bonnet but there is one good thing with the distancing, you can see who is bidding against you ? That's if you can get in to begin with "SORRY MATE WE ARE FULL" :lol:

  9. Posted

    If the pissing press (bbc and sky news), stopped banging on about this Cummings malarkey and concentrated on the biggest news this year that small retailers up and down the country can go back and earn some money then everything would be clearer, for the general public !

    Question, you can open a car showroom yes? But if you are a car dealer you cannot go in ? :lol:

  10. Posted

    3 minutes ago, Boycie said:

    Fair enough, but that still means that everyone can open as long as the punters don't go in the 'showroom'???

    And confirming what everyone else has been saying, loads of people never closed and nothing will happen to them.

    Yes and no, from the purchasers point of view, would they click n collect a used car, my opinion is no, and, i believe the view of many other "used" car dealers think similar, a new car yes, but a used car is a whole different ball game, as for other people not closing, they are putting every one at risk, and they are taking proper law abiding traders food from there table.

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  11. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Paul C said:

    Its pretty simple - posh dealers with indoor showrooms can open from June 1st. The plebs with a shipping container as an office, have to wait until June 15th. You didn't expect it to be clear, or simple, or fair, from the government after recent events did you???

    and yet boris by opening garden centres and outdoor markets says your less likely to catch the virus, well er, hellow boris what about open car sites ? :D

  12. Posted

    15 minutes ago, Paul C said:

    Yes its car showrooms - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-sets-out-timeline-for-retail-to-reopen-in-june

    "Car showrooms" and "auction houses" were listed as businesses and venues which must be closed to the public, under retail: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/further-businesses-and-premises-to-close/further-businesses-and-premises-to-close-guidance . Also as part of that, it said "all retail except ..............." (and car dealers weren't on the exemption list, but repairs/MoT were).

    The guidance document linked from the BBC article https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/shops-and-branches applies to all retailers (ie those essential ones currently open, as well as those currently closed) and is where "car dealerships" wording is used instead of "car showrooms". (And also mentions auction houses).

    Does this mean if you're a car dealer without a car showroom, you can't re-open on 1 June (and will need to wait until 15 June)???? Answers on a postcard.....

    As i say, that is exactly as i read it !

    clear as mud again ! can WE SELL CARS OR NOT BORIS ? :wacko: 

    27 minutes ago, Boycie said:

    As far as I am aware, you can sell stuff remotely, the punters can come and collect the car as long as they don't go inside the premises.

    The same way that Screwfix etc are working. So in reality, no-one had to close.

    Sorry but you're wrong, click n collect was only allowed by the government guidance at car dealers from 13 may on..........not before .

  14. Posted

    2 hours ago, Paul C said:

    Its official, it was in today's press conference that car dealers will be able to open June 1st onwards.

    nope, sorry, i hate to be the stickler? for this, but it is car showrooms that have been given the green light, car dealerships, are classed as "shops and branches" as also are  auction houses "shops and branches" none essential so 15th june, one for LAWGISTICS  i beleive ! once again, clear as mud :rolleyes:

    government  have released a very informative piece tonight , go to bbc news and click the link to "new guidance has been published" tells you all about test drives and some very good information for car dealerships .

     

  16. Posted · Edited by have a word with the wife

    Having read the governments "our plan to rebuild" i see it as 4th july earliest, i think a lot of people are reading into the restrictions and think it applies to them, it does not, lets look at car showrooms, particularly picked out as well as car auctions to be closed to visitors .

    do you actually run a car showroom ? or do you do car sales

     [ a none essential business ? ]

    car showrooms if run properly can easily abide to the rules  although, as i have said earlier on in the month  if you restrict the amount of customers in, and that customer spends a hour or two with you, how many actual customers can you get in a day, compared to lets say a supermarket? so, bottom line, will you make money?

    this bit from the governments "plan to rebuild" =● Opening non-essential retail when and where it is safe to do so, and subject to those retailers being able to follow the new COVID-19 Secure guidelines. The intention is for this to happen in phases from 1 June; the Government will issue further guidance shortly on the approach that will be taken to phasing, including which businesses will be covered in each phase and the timeframes involved. All other sectors that are currently closed, including hospitality and personal care, are not able to re-open at this point because the risk of transmission in these environments is higher. The opening of such sectors is likely to take place in phases during step three, as set out below.

    as you see, the word, phases, can a physical car auction follow the covid 19 guidelines ? no, can a indoor car warehouse, full of cars abide ? mmmm, :unsure: make your own mind up, can a used car forecourt with doors locked and constantly being cleaned abide ? mmmm:unsure: from what i understand, and do not quote me on this, they are meeting right now, and letting us know monday [thursday ? ]  which can open, and which is to stay close "phasing"

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  17. Posted

    On 5/16/2020 at 4:00 PM, have a word with the wife said:

    it,s scandalous ! i have just also read that there is no "either / or " choice ! in other words if the self eiss is claimable, and  you have not claimed it then your still not allowed to claim ?

     

     

    as of todays date

    i have wrote to the Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy

    i have made them aware of my concerns that this scheme only applies to less than 5% of self employed and asked them for a rethink, if you wish to write too here is the link https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-business-energy-and-industrial-strategy

    nice to see a mp has added his concerns in a open letter to the business secretary  [ tim finn]

  20. Posted

    42 minutes ago, awc1000 said:

    It's not the problem you think it is, nor was it last time round, granted some gems were lost in the last scrappage scheme but the bulk of the swappers were tat, exactly how it was intended.

    the only loss to the franchises were the sales managers who lost their bung money off the banger traders, it was 2k gov contribution and 1k from the manufacturer, the gov money only appearing after confirmation off collection by an appointed scrap dealer, hence nothing could go missing.

    the only loss to the used car trade was the lads selling and relying on sub £1k shite, and they were not that bothered anyway as the supply of that stuff is constant anyway.

    if the scheme comes back it will be good news for franchises ,and good news for proper used car dealers selling decent £2-3k cars who have it hard competing with cowboys selling un-prepped sub £1500 junk.

    as for the lost gems, well last time they really were few and far between, it certainly wasn't the great mint older car cull that people imagined or presumed happened, the only shock was how many folks with £200 cars who were in the market for a new motor.....

    if you are worried about another scheme and your stock profile is all sub £1k sold as seen tat then you are either a busy fool or need to find a new career.

    i gave up worrying about "schemes" years ago, in all my years i have  learn to adapt, to any scenario, on the front line, the complete journey from initial purchase right through to removing the sale board and shaking the customers hand, if the scheme does not come in, then it very possibly  be a very good thing, there are too many car dealers having it easy, bloated and looking through there glass window, a clean sweep will get rid of them.

    i believe you are trying to button hole me as a facebook trader, and i find that quite offensive to be honest, it seems on here lately that you put a opinion and give your years of experience and get knocked for it, why do i bother ?

     

  21. Posted · Edited by have a word with the wife

    when you help one dealer with a scheme [scrappage] you remove supply from another, it is well documented that many good cars with plenty of life left [ and classics] were needlessly crushed, remember these cars could not be resold, that was the rule.

    bear in mind that the used car dealer, not only looses the opportunity to purchase a so called "scrap" car, he also looses a used car customer to one who reckons he may as well buy new.

    i take you back to the original scrappage scheme, hyundai i10 was £7000 base out the door, put your old car in and it was £4995, for a brand new long warranted car, £2000 scrappage if you remember [ correct me if my figures are wrong ] !

    everything has a cost, and someone has to pay, and introducing a scrappage scheme is not helping the whole "car dealers".

  23. Posted · Edited by have a word with the wife

    it,s scandalous ! i have just also read that there is no "either / or " choice ! in other words if the self eiss is claimable, and  you have not claimed it then your still not allowed to claim ?

     

     

    as of todays date

    i have wrote to the Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy

    i have made them aware of my concerns that this scheme only applies to less than 5% of self employed and asked them for a rethink, if you wish to write too here is the link https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-business-energy-and-industrial-strategy

  24. Posted

    james, in your very recent article= https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/small-businesses-missed-10k-government-grants-may-get-cash-june/192558

    thanks for the update incidentally, it states that, and i quote =

    " They must also not have received any other government grants – including the help announced for self-employed people"

     

    Well please correct me if i am wrong but the self employed income support scheme that went live this week with many millions making the claim is, described as a grant !

    Have the self employed people who have not got the help with the original rates grant been deceived ?

    I think i read that 95% of self employed can claim the self employment income support scheme