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3 hours ago, BHM said:BUY! BUY!
Howdy Doody !
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5 hours ago, It's me said:slow is an understatement
red always difficult, reason being in the distant past they always faded and this theory still stands in the minds of many
That’s right but what I remember is you can always shift nice stock if it is priced right no matter what colour it is.Never mind bright red or DC as we used to call it,what about some of the trendy colours today that appear similar to public toilet brick light blue on various Porsche models and also urine gold used by several manufacturers.You couldn’t replicate those in Tekaloid ( that’s a distant past joke ! ) when a full shoot was £55 ……..no kidding.
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2 hours ago, Highlinev8 said:I've been on the waiting list for the Abarth EV for six months so will let you know when it comes in !
Seriously think the Chinese brands are going to shake the market up. People can joke about the quality etc but the BYD cars look top spec and will undercut the European models.
You could be right but they might need to hire George Clooney,Brad Pitt and David Beckham as brand ambassadors to get ‘ street cred ‘ ! We had an MG 3 small hatch a few years ago,looked the part but drove like an 80’s Metro. The young punter was happy with it, probably because it was 3 year old,£4000 and it was an MG !
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Inflation or what ! Just reading about the new F500 EV.The poverty model is £34,000 ! with a ‘ potential’ range of 164 miles ? I wonder how many of those will dealers be expected to shift per month. I would imagine that punters will need 10 grand deposit to even rent one for 3 years.How much will they retail for when they are 5 years old ,30k but with 10- 15% battery depletion ,sounds like £6999 max.to me. …….it’s mad.
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On 4/3/2023 at 5:34 PM, CrazeUK said:Hi All.
New dealer here.
I purchased a lemon from BCA it seems.
The car was a grade 4, 86k warrantied miles.
It came with a Assured check, the vehicle was purchased beginning of Feb for £6
On collecting the vehicle we noticed 3 main issues that where not listed:
1. electric boot lid had an arm missing which meant it wouldnt open, stay open and it was slightly out of alignment and wouldn't lock properly.
2. Sunroof blind was not functional.
3. some vibration when moving from static and a very sluggish gear change.
BCA asked us to send a video, which we did. They said they will send an engineer out.
A few weeks later BCA sent a third party engineering firm ACE, the guy literally spent 5 mins with the car, drove it up a car park and back. Said the sluggish change and vibrations on moving from static where normal and within params.
BCA rejected the claim.
We went ahead and had the vehcile MOT'd. The mechanic made an observation and said the transmission felt wrong and the clutch was about to go. They also wrote a letter as a quote / statement of their observations.
I gave it to.my customer who was pregnant and due to have give birth.
i then had the sunroof blind repaired and noticed the entire roof was cracked. (You can't see it from outside as it's tinted unless you look top down).
The customer drove it 100 miles down the M1 and the clutch totally failed to her Panic on the M1 with 2 year old.
Went back to BCA who escalated the claim with a letter from the mot garage. They still rejected it.
The costs are now mounting up:
£600 sunroof glass (not fitted)
£300 boot strut (not fitted)
£1500 semi auto clutch (fitted).
What are my next steps?
I am scared if I do anything to piss them off they will close my auction account..my only reasonable way of purchasing right now.
Unfortunately it appears to me that the bottom line is that it doesn’t matter whether it was from BCA or any other auction , I think a judge might say that as a professional car dealer having PDI’d the car ,you have forfeited your chance of making any further claim regarding a misleading Assured Report by retailing the vehicle with known faults to an innocent member of the public.
As a newbie,you will need to factor in that with on line buying you should find that you get far more bonuses than penalties so just ‘ take your medicine’ and move on.I might add,if this is your first year operating on your own,even if you have been in the trade as a salesman for years,be prepared as you might be faced with set backs you never even thought of.
So good luck and ‘welcome to the jungle ‘ and don’t be put off.
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8 hours ago, samuel welwyn said:Good morning all,
Hope everyone is keeping well.
Ive just had a vehicle delivered to us through a third party with a massive stone chip in the windscreen which the driver admitted happened in transit.
In the past other companies have agreed to pay for the repair however this company are saying "We are not paying as stone chips are out of our control".
Am I right to assume they should be held responsible?
Was wondering if anyone has had an issue like this before and how to proceed.
Thanks in advance!
I don’t think you can hold the transport company responsible because their driver has in effect failed to avoid colliding with an incoming object not visible to the naked eye ! We have used the same transport company for many years and occasionally stuff happens and we never complain because overall they do a great job.For instance on the top deck of transporters ,cars can be scratched by overhanging trees in the summer,it’s not the drivers fault.On the other hand they might be delayed by our vehicle not starting or being out of fuel causing their schedule to be messed up and we are not penalised.Look after your transport company and they will look after you.
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5 hours ago, petrol head said:Share price closed 32% up @$2.62, be interesting to see what happens when the market opens shortly.
The shares were originally issued at about $10 and evaporated into cents , so to avoid being thrown off the stock exchange,shareholders were then given one new share for every 20 old shares they held.So at $2.62 I think shareholders are down about $197 per share ! I think they bank with SVB which has just been rescued by HSBC. I agree with It’s Me ,how long before they pull the plug to stop them flogging off more assets.All the ingredients for a Netflix Documentary !
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11 hours ago, It's me said:Big news early next week I feel
Big news last week,having blown several hundred million borrowed from pension funds,the penny must have dropped for these amateurs running Cazoo ,I see they have appointed a professional car dealer to salvage the business.
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2 hours ago, metcars said:Seriously. I recently treated myself to a ‘genuine’ set of Ford mats for my smoker and they are NOT what they used to be!
Extraordinary ,lashing out on a new set of manufacturers mats !
We used to buy sets of mats for £5 from Macess ( remember them ) and give them to the punters on handover.
The mats weren’t that good but the packaging was and they were labelled ‘luxury car mats ‘. The punters loved them to the extent that when they returned for another car,they would often first enquire if they still got a set of luxury mats !
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36 minutes ago, It's me said:I had the dubious pleasure of blowing a big lump of money on a samurai aptly name I was taking it to the auctions to sell as no interest from the autotrader advert,it dropped a big end on the way there and engines weren't available,sold it from the back pages the following week underscores or repairs,he's probably still got it
Bought a 2 year 11month skoda estelle as it had a scrape on a wheel arch,with it being that new no paint available in a rattlecan so I went to the main dealer big place even then,they basically said go away we don't do that old crap anymore we are selling the felicia models now
OK they were better cars but they rotted like wet kellogs cornflakes boxes left out in the rain,still not sure how to take a battery out of one
Ha Ha never had a Samurai but did plenty of Estelles ,they were cheap .Another blast from the past or distant past,I tried to advertise a Moskvich Van in the local rag in the early 70’s when the unions were causing havoc.The advert was refused because I described it as “will carry 50,000 strike leaflets “.
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1 hour ago, metcars said:My memory’s not what it was, but weren’t the importers concerned about low spec and dressed them up with wheel trims, stickers and radios.
Not only the importers,In the early 80’s ,dressing up your stock was a trend.Vinyl roofs,plastic sun roofs ,trim rings ,coach lines ,DIY white wall tyres etc. You could then describe them as a Special Edition .I think we did a Datsun Sunny Celebration Special Edition ,I didn’t need to with Ladas,they were bog standard !
19 minutes ago, It's me said:savage 500 wheel trims on lada before they were named rivas
when we got the samara they came with a full bodykit
Yes Savage wheel trims ! I had forgotten about Samaras,I once used one of them as a local smoker for a month or two .I made a point of parking it next to the bullshitters/gobshites ‘chucky’d up ‘ smokers with shit personal plates at the local BCA ,just to annoy them !
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Memories,memories ,it’s a future classic ! Ladas ! they were good news,easy to sell,never needed paintwork,good punters ,no come backs.Those were the days,if the millennials only knew the way it was !I still remember one punter who we sold a 2 year old one to for about £1500 with a 10 year old Lada swapper for £100 and he said “ people laugh at me but the comp insurance is £100,I don’t need to lock it up,nobody will steal it and they never go wrong.I also know someone who was a Ford dealer sales manager ( as they were called then ) who then set up on his own in Newcastle and got a Lada franchise , he became one of the biggest Lada dealers in the UK.It might do £2000 in Brightwells Classic sale………Wonderfull !
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On 1/5/2023 at 1:17 PM, trade vet said:Looking forward to the next press release from the Cazoo guy . Something like ‘ we would like to thank NYSE for their support,we continue to meet our projections with increased cash flow,lower carbon footprint,and our upgraded health and safety programme .Our latest modern slavery mission statement emphasises the strong beliefs we have while driving the company forward.The company is in good hands.’ Etc etc
So the founder and Chief Honcho has been removed.However,no worries and in order to ‘reset their top line ( not bottom line ) ambitions ‘and to ‘ maximise their cash runway ‘,they have created a new strategy —— close down prep centres which probably means sacking fitters,painters and valeters and ‘Bob’s your uncle ‘. You cannot make it up.
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Hi guys,out of interest,circa 10 years time when there will be far more EV’s and rapid charging is the norm which depletes batteries quicker,can anyone project how much older EV’s will sell for.For instance will a 10 year old,100k,average size EV but with 30% battery depletion be considered a ‘cheapie ‘ in the trade caused by the prohibitive cost of batteries.Could a 60 grand Tesla or similar become £3000 ! Alternatively will the equivalent Euro 6 petrol and diesels retain their values far better and be better retailers than they are now………..thoughts please.
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Now Cinch have reported a £149m loss.You have got to laugh,serves BCA right for copying Cazoo .Most of their best sources of stock is hedged at 95% of Cap and has been doing at least a grand over Cap.So with their additional huge buyers fees they must have been netting at least £1500 per entry through the block with no prep,comebacks or advertising .So those dickheads who thought they could do better per unit by retailing should get their P45.You cannot make it up.
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Looking forward to the next press release from the Cazoo guy . Something like ‘ we would like to thank NYSE for their support,we continue to meet our projections with increased cash flow,lower carbon footprint,and our upgraded health and safety programme .Our latest modern slavery mission statement emphasises the strong beliefs we have while driving the company forward.The company is in good hands.’ Etc etc
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9 hours ago, A & S said:Its a BMW 116i 2.0 petrol 2009
I avoid buying mainly Japanese petrol cars and now petrol BMWs, anything else the thieving b@stards mainly target ?
I doubt that the Police even record cat thefts as it is an insurance claim.A few years ago our transport company had cats costing £1800 each stolen from 80 new Merc Sprinters which were stored in their yard. It didn’t make the local news
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On 8/2/2022 at 2:01 PM, trade vet said:Best trade bullshit I have heard in over 50 years.Cazoo top guy has stated he is very proud of their latest results,losing £240m in 6 months which I think equates to losing 5 grand per sale.Shares now 50 cents,down from 10 dollars.This guy might be better off going into hiding.You guys make sure to tell your punters to steer clear.
Shares down 36% yesterday to 13 cents,are they not trading illegally by losing all these millions,do they not have a duty to enter administration or Chapter 11 Protection or whatever they call it in the US .Are punters not at risk and where is the FCA.
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57 minutes ago, It's me said:needed a vauxhall part the other week, not bought nowt from them in a long time as every corsa I buy comes back with the warm orange glowing light on, I got out the old trade card no we don't use them anymore, OK fair enough, the part I wanted needed to be ordered and it was £120, trade discount? no we don't do that anymore, what?? so went back to work went online found a company breaking the car I needed a bit off and got it for £2 as it was basically a gromit cum bushing
so needed them again and this time rather than trailing into the town that has the dealer I contacted them online and got someone in a generic Call centre with a made up name, she was hopeless but wanted my feedback on that site for building rogues types where it is 100% positive feedback and not one negative
so I turned the chat off and went to the dealer site for their phone number
there's one to book a test drive
there's one to book a service
there's one to tell them you love them
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no parts line
I gave up and again got the part via ebay this time and told customer they would have to manage
there all done and breath
pathetic service
Ha Ha …Your right,how things have changed.I remember going to parts counters and asking for things like a track rod end for a 68 xxxxx and the guy would say ‘ that will be a 739824,we’ve got them ‘ then take 2 mins to get one and you could pay by cheque and no questions asked.
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Franchise dealers always got a hard time from manufacturers.It is like having a noose round your neck if you are a smaller dealer with a franchise.Now after a recent court case,it appears any franchise dealers can be given a few weeks notice and terminated for any reason.According to reports Stellantis appear to be behaving like Mr Botna ,who was the sole importer of Datsun in the UK,(if anyone remembers him ) and the strokes that were pulled on dealer principals who had to put their houses up as security .
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Ha Ha outrageous ! stitched up by a lovely ‘old dear’,bet you thought you had nicked it. Nice one.
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It has always been the same,the worst ‘ Chucky Duffers ‘ tend to come out of the woodwork in December.They must think because it is a quiet time for car dealers,they will somehow get accepted.
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With the worst ones it is virtually impossible to get rid of the odour and after a week or two ,it usually comes back.We had an ex Motability Golf which had several wet vacs,smoke bombs and we even changed the trim.We retailed it twice and had to refund it each time and had it in stock for about a year.Then third time lucky we retailed it again and it never came back ……….the punter was a farmer !
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On 11/7/2022 at 8:42 PM, chan said:HI All,
i have been dealing with Auction house G3 for a long time and recently i had a issue with a car ,as we both could not agree to an outcome .i took the matter through small claim court. Now they blocked my buyer account blaming me for going to court. did i do any thing wrong ?? do they have right to block for going to court ?? where can i take this issue further ?? dont i have the right to get the help of of law ? Please any advice will help !!
Would you mind providing more information.What was the issue,was it Assured,did they offer a remedy,who was the vendor,who did you take to Small Claims and what was the result,how many do you buy per month.Just read G3 T & C’s and it clearly states they can reject anyone without reason.( BCA state if you take legal action they can cancel your account. ) .Normally when you buy at auction,the contract is between the buyer and the seller and the auction acts as an agent .
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Slow month?
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It reminds me of the Ford Dealer in rural Northumberland where we would buy swappers in the distant past.I was waiting to see the sales manager who was showing some new car to a typical farmer and his wife. She said she didn’t like the colour and the sales manager who also looked like a farmer replied ‘ I wouldn’t worry about the colour pet,when it’s covered in shit you won’t notice ‘ .She said ‘ you’re right we will have it ‘.