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Interesting to hear that wenickanycar now belongs to BCR as they have being buying cat Ds of me for the last few months 7 in total to date and emails and calls asking for any more . Have just done a deal for three more and one is a cat C we have came to a price just vehicle inspection and if you know the guys it's amazing what a bit of lunch can do !

I sell only on line and make sure that any auction ends on a Thursday as Thursday I always get the most hits to the site .

I would add..............what ever you are wearing, you should make sure you have clean shoes!!!!! And don't smell like a car sales man !!!!

Do think that sales guys that do wear the tie should have maching balaclavas The tie wearing is a good interceptor for the punter to know if he's going to get to get f----ed over. Daddy run he comes the man with a tie on ! !

No tie ! Open shirt showing the gold bliing chain would be more suiting to today's sales team in the showrooms . Most punters don't see a car sales person as a professional white collar worker more of a transit job or have a go guy . So wearing a tie most times has the appearance of mutton dressed as lamb !

Your a 100% right there hiding the fact that a car is recorded is a low life thing to do and there is no real reason to do so cause the recorded class is the sales pitch. But then again guys that are kerbside traders don't feel that they have been embraced by the industry so would not do any thing to enhance it why would they when main dealers rip them up for any services they request Eg ; parts , tools hire or car data .

Well greengiant , I called the lights where on but no answer .

Andy hope you don't think I am on your case but I just giving the flip side of the coin Know your opposition ! This guy is a one man band trying to eat the dealers lunch . Don't see the need for a forecourt cause that would cramp his style of the honest joe dealer . He couldn't come of with his if you went to a dealer line . Don't need the over heads of the back up , car is priced to be sold as seen and the punter see the saving . As for warranty that's the bargaining point If you give me another £200 I will give you 1 year warranty . Bang hello warranty company and buys a years cover . Not much difference between him than the forecourt dealer only the low over heads and more personal contact with the punter. Most time he is mr ebayer " Ok if you corm and see the car make me an offer I will stop the auction ." If the dealers do such a good service why do they worry so much about mr homer , mr road side trader and mr cat D . Cause mr dealer is not offering the punter value no more . The punter knows that cars today last longer and are more reliable even with what would have been said over the clock is now just 100 k miles . They know that you no longer fix a engine you replace it and you don't need the dealer to tell you that and charge you double to do it . So what does the dealer offer the punter to pay in lowest case 20% more for ? With the internet car selling sites and mr homers web site that is his forecourt , that is his shop front. I would think with iPhone ,iPad and whatsapp and cars having longer transferable warranties he will do well in the years to come .

Do you think that if we could educate the general public over here, it would only work for all of us? Andy , me be the general public are educate over here , Most punters here see the value in a damaged repaired insurance wright off .the only thing they don't understand is dealers don't . But when that is fully explained to them they fully do . Just briefly ; "dealers don't have the know how are management skills to repair these cars so rubbish them and devalue them as dealers like to buy a clean car from a repression auction and mark up 2 grand on it, fixing a perfectly good car would sound like to much work to them and their not in the business of giving the public the chance to drive a young low mileage car that they other would not afford . And if could afford would have to pay 30% more of the dealer " . Where you are also getting mixed up cars in the states are not made wright off to to small damage value of here . cause the dealers are not as greedy and have trained staff in the US of A . And as for HPI I have bought many a well damaged car that not been recorded .

Andy , What is the TS clamping down on , people fixing cars ? Lol What if a cat D or C was to be classed as a cat B not to be returned to the road . Insurance premiums would double as the insurance company's recope half their losses selling Ds & Cs . What would that do for the car industry ? Think the real problem lies more with the main dealers not just charging excessive labour rates and mark up on parts and not having the trained staff to fix the likes of parking sensors and air bag replacement . So a car with light frontal damage that has parking sensors that the main dealers can't fix and give a warranty now has to be classed as a cat D . Main dealer also takes forever to fix the simplest problem cause the insurance company is paying for a hired car that the dealer is again charging three time regular rental rates . So the guy with the know how to replace air bags sensors is the target of TS . Don't think the TS will never stop the insurance company's selling Ds & Cs to be returned to the road or ever stop some one fixing a car Did you know that soon a lot more cars that have damage as classed as a cat d today will be unrecorded . In fact this is already the case . Q And who passed this ? A TS Insurance company's are banks , banks are big and get what they want think they have proved that to the tune of 85 billion of our money . So don't think TS will stop them being part of cat Ds or cat Cs returning back on the road it would cost them money and bankers like money . And beside that , I doubt many main dealers could tell what a cat D or C is before or after fixed . Could he tell why it is a cat D not a C . You cant tell 60% of cat Ds after being fixed not unless you go in to the bar codes of the new parts to tell that they are newer than the car .the other 40% may have had panel damage and bad paint job would be the tell tail . There has never been a case where there has been a criminal injury case caused by a cat D or cat C car sold to any one . So what do that tell you , it is all down to money . If your in the market for a cat D that my forte.

Barrie It is never to late , 40 years is a long time to be in the Motor Trade if you had of got Gavin's advice years ago you would have been long retired .

Jim , Take a closer look at the road side dealer price bracket only the fly by night for the want of a better word TRADER deals in the £100 / £1000 car. The road side dealer who has claimed his spot is dealing from £4,500 (£5k/£6k in the dealers showroom ) up wards to £10 (£13k in the dealers showroom ) . And offers take you to your bank in your car to be service !

Dan you can't Educate fools cause most out there with up to £10k in their pocket looking to buy , class themselves as Red necks with pay checks they have tried playing middle working class didn't work for them had to pay to much tax. all that I am legitimate Dealer means to them is when you come back with a problem I know how to f--- you over with in the law . Don't want to bring you bag of cash into Mr I am Legitimate do you .

Mr greengiant wrote "Translation of all or any of the above would be appreciated please." If you need Translaition of all or any that I have wrote you are not turned in Kido and should ask your self how long ago was it the 90s . Most dealers answer of the coff is 10 years ago . What has changed in the last 20 years in the dealers showroom ? Does dealers showroom have a place in today market ?

You may be should ask about what Joe Gullible thinks of the pond life selling a car from the road side with low over heads and in a better position to knock out a deal than the dealer who in his mind is more of a Arthur Daily than the pond life . In fact the dealer is in Joe not so Gullible eyes the same guy that f... Him over on his house sale the estate agent and the Bank manger that give him the advice on his mortgage and encourage him to move up market in a boom market . He dresses the same and offers the same shit coffee has magazine on the table that don't relate to his life . His wife thinks he a sleeve ball and if you listen very carefully it sounds just like a golf . I think the pond life in the coming years will do well unless the DI of the dealerships gets his advise on rebranding ! Most out there remember where they where sold PPI and how much the dealers and the banks made the decision on how much they would pay for a car . They didn't go to the bank for a loan they went to the dealer who had contacts in the bank bet you wouldn't say that now mud sticks and the show room has big windows !

Where there is a mac Ds you will find a buger king , when you drive down an industrial estate which has turned in to gasoline alley with the big dealers There you will see the Bill broads as close as they can get to opposition trying to hijack each other's customers . Competing for the spot with the banks with their Happy Family bill broads and small print . And just like the pond life when Joe Gullible signs up to unbelievable interest rate drives out in a car that he going to pay 50% more of its value and not afford to keep up the warranty service cost ( he's lucky his dad used to have to pay PPI to get the loan ) . Picks up the phone when he has a problem " sorry this number is for sales I don't know who you need to talk to can I put you on hold EEEEEeeeeeeeoooooo........... " With the pond life and his pay as you go / run Mobil you don't have to pay the price of the call . So phone the Trading Stardards but they are up feeding the Loch Ness monster with their real teddy bear hair hats on ! It's Dog eat Dog out there and the big Dogs have the biggest bite .

I don't know any legitimate trader who is self made that didn't start as a road side trader . No legitimate trader bought ,leased or builted a show room put out £100k on stock before he had ever sold a car of his own bat . Think I will take cover !

That means the roads will be cleared up by Xmas with the buckets you've sold ! Lol

Good to hear TML , maybe your in the market to move on a few ! Lol What does cat D knock of the price of the car in anyone's experience here?

Have drivers slowed down to conserve fuel !

Have done waiting on reply thanks for the tip . lot of buyers looking , had a Peugeot just finish a 7 day make an offer on eBay got 433 views 35 watchers that is more than usual , but no sale . Have the car priced £2,300 below book price and £3,000 below any other of same type on eBay. Will try eBay auction as just sold a 2012 BMW 320 d for good money on auction instead of buy it now are make an offer!

Could be the case as he said a lot of these buy you car web sites have been set up for a buy out by the bigger sites the present site he is working for number one priority is not profit but turn over for a potential take over .

Chating to a car buyer for a buy your car web site he advise me that they are running at 30% of sales compared to Q2 13 this to him Is a great indicator that things will not pick up to Q1 14 in fact he put down to the 4 January that thinks pick up . He told me that for the last 5 years the 4 January has been their business day of the year and this can run to march in the SH car market .

Hi guys thanks for the replies , Don't know of any customer has had any warranty work carried out on a car that I have sold them ,but on a BMW 116 that had frontal damage was repaired and when it was getting its 10k mile service done the dealer found a fault with the fuel injection which was done under warranty . Knowing that the car was a cat d . I have emailed car buyers and have had some response in terms of interest but all offering 60% of trade price ,that don't stack up for me . In fact it would be a loss of a average of £1,200 per car ! I am buying my stock of copart does anyone know of other out let's that deal in damaged repairable they would recommend ? Will be in touch warrantywise .