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  2. Posted

    13 minutes ago, have a word with the wife said:

    without ppe we can't do anything ?

    You can 

    You can stay shut till it's safe to open,when that is is anyones guess

    I'm still trying to work out the point of opening if once a customer sits in a car and twiddles his arse in it and doesn't buy it in needs sanitizing again and by whom and how much are you going to pay them going in with the full ppe and a feather duster

    There isn't an answer yet

     

     

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  4. Posted

    3 minutes ago, Paul C said:

    Most but not all:

    1*79nRWhJ2hYzpHfXnSGc5hQ.jpeg

    Wow I have been in both zones,the tiffany with the blade still gives me nightmares though

    31 minutes ago, trade vet said:

    Another Lambo story to pass the time.This one from 20 years ago was widely publicised at the time and might still be online.

    As I recall,this  London guy is in his 60’s,lives alone in a flat from where he runs a successful cigarette vending business called Fagomatic.He has a van and works day and night and never goes on holiday.Using the van however restricts him from doing more lucrative business with exclusive London clubs.Apparently doormen would not allow him to park his van directly outside as it ‘lowers the tone ‘ and he could not park it elswhere as it was too risky late at night.

    So to get round this problem he buys a new Diablo.This investment subsequently works and business flourishes because it looks good parked outside club entrances late at night and also impresses doormen and there is also less risk of having his cigarette stock stolen.

    However,after buying the Diablo he claimed back £25k VAT as he was only using it as a commercial vehicle.However the VAT people did not agree and wanted their money back and the case went before the Tax Commissioners.Also at stake was the non payment of company car tax which would be another £20k per year for a Diablo.

    Incredible as it sounds the Lambo guy won the case as he was able to prove that since buying it, his business had increased by 50%.He also proved that he mostly used his van and the Diablo was parked up in a secure public car park in the same spot during the day.

    However I understand that sometime later and unfortunately for Lambo man, the Vat people successfully appealed the Tax Commissioners ruling to the High Court .

    It reminds me of car dealers in the distant past who would have flash smokers to help impress main dealer sales managers to get offered  first choice of all the best swappers.

     

     

     

    Just found it online

    Very interesting story

    Thanks:)

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  5. Posted

    4 hours ago, mxp26 said:

    I have a quick question for you. I bought a car from a dealer and the car didn’t have the logbook, the dealer made me fill a v62 form and went to the post office to send it to the dvla and tax the car for me. I can see that that car is taxed now for six months. My question is how can dealer tax the car without the v5? When I search on line I read different stories of people who were able to tax it and other who needed the actual v5 to arrive in order to tax the car. 

    This is a trade secret passed down over hundreds of years

    Please do not ask again as we would be breaking the code of the car dealers association to give you such information 

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  6. Posted · Edited by New year revolutions......

    5 hours ago, Barclaywoodmotorco said:

    Hi Chaps 

    Auto trader states on there website stay at home, on the home page.

    they would be more  helpful to us traders by changing that to dealers able to sell and 

    deliver cars !!!!!!

    not sold a car now for a month..

    hope everyone is well.

    Really

    I cant find where it says that

    I'm guessing if you follow the link they put up at the top it follows government guidelines on what you need to do if you must buy a car at this time

    Now let me think on my shopping list

    Buy sunday paper

    Get 4 points of milk

    Get a loaf of bread

    Tin of cat food

    Buy car

     

     

    Think that basically covers it

    Back in an hour dear:lol:

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  7. Posted

    8 minutes ago, Lakeside said:

    Very few at Wolverhampton now, think they only deal with west mids police once in a blue moon. All the Thames valley stuff is sold from BCA Bedford now.

     

    somewhere must be selling them? Bca don’t deal with that many and Oxford was the only other I knew of.

    Follow the dealer at manchester he seems to own most of them

  10. Posted

    14 minutes ago, Halfpenny said:

     

    I think a lot of people are not fully grasping the scale of the economic storm we are facing.  

    Absolutely

    I've tried on another thread to explain one part of this business,independent mot stations,the kind of businesses that are the backbone of this country yet all I got was grief for giving straight facts

    When the shit his the fan properly which I envisage is next year early when some normality might have returned it's going to be one hell of a wake up call

    Me

    I've done everything in my power to be ready to open but really dont envisage much business once  everyone has been, had a moan, told me their life story ,kicked a few tyres and gone off to have a word with their wives 

    As simply red said money will be too tight to mention and worse getting decent credit will be harder to find than a crack pipe, seeing as all the vape shops went bust

     

  11. Posted

    3 minutes ago, BHM said:

    I wonder if they told MP Matt Hancock something along the lines of;

    You snooze, you loose.

    Money talks, bullshit walks.

    First come, first served.

    I think it's more the case this company were asking too much

    Why would you charter a plane and fill every seat with ppe if you could go to blaydon and get it

  12. Posted

    6 minutes ago, awc1000 said:

    unlike yourself iv'e no need to stand under rostrums acting like a big-un, and the last time i did was whilst bidding up my own entry's in front of buyers like you who wouldnt have a clue whether i was buying or selling, but that was in the 90's , spent the last 20 years buying and underwriting the higher end stuff for franchises.

    enjoy your return to the auction when you are allowed, i'll think of you when i'm still sat at home valuing and buying cars for and from franchises, all of which i will sell onto retail buyers who don't have to rely on auctions or credit.

    Haven't been to an auction proper since 1998 so your breath is wasted

    I saw you there by the way in 1997 

    So you've answered my question

    Ps I hope dot didn't personally give you your bacon sandwich,  bless her soul  she was the best

  13. Posted

    19 minutes ago, Lazz said:

    I think this depends a little at what ends of the market you are working at and if you are not careful you will just slash prices for the sake of it when there will be no need.

    i think there may be a slight dip initially with dealers holding back and seeing what's happening but realistically I think supply won't be great.

    There will be what's sitting at the auctions now ready to go but it will take a while for the main dealers to get back up to speed with the part exchanges coming through which means supply will be low initially which I think will help prices.

    i have been in the game a while and have worked through a couple of recessions and if you are not careful you will talk yourself into working for nothing and we carried on selling through them profitably.

    just keep an eye on the auction prices and if they start nudging down just be mindful deal your self out of what you have when you can, and restock at reduced prices.

    i for one will not be slashing prices from the word go.

    Absolutely correct

    I always say why buy work

    I have done the buy the stock mug it away only to buy the same stuff 3 weeks later

    Sit tight if you can 

    1 hour ago, awc1000 said:

    your nearly right on this one, the stocking loan company's have all given good or reasonable extensions so that is not the reason,  the reductions you see are likely because of the other overheads and pressure.

    note - opinion formed whilst sat in my slippers not pointy shoes, based on supplying many of these dealers nationally for many years.;)

    Words

  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, awc1000 said:

    you think wrong then, i'm a trade buyer, started in 1982, happy to compare cv's with you anytime.

    explain how you think a customer suddenly has an 18 month mot?  the 6 month extension is just that, which means none of it matters regards what is due a test next year, simply every car will be due a test next year which was the original o.p question. 

    anyone who thinks the 6 month extension will be rolling after lock down is deluded.

    A trade buyer is not an end seller

    I'm an not interested you started in 1982 that's yesterday

    If you cant understand how this extension works then  please continue being the small guy under the rostrum who thinks he owns the place

  15. Posted

    1 minute ago, awc1000 said:

    thats because being in the trade you don't worry about your own cars, most customers have no mechanical nohow whatsoever, and plenty will be worried there car has issues, it suits the ones running shite for sure, but thats a minority.

    Again I'm lost for words

    It's a real small minority of customers usually older than me and I appear to be the oldest that cling to the idea they want it safe

    I think you must sell new cars and have  pointy shoes

  16. Posted

    2 minutes ago, awc1000 said:

    you asked how franchises keep customers, i replied one answer is 5 year service packs, these are sold from new, don't confuse service packs with mots, nobody selling new cars is interested in selling future mots, service packs are not just sold to keep customers in the dealer network.

    block exemption has nothing to do with mots, anyone with a test station can test any car anytime.

    I'm sorry are you reading from a script

    Dont confuse service packs with mots....

    Im lost for words......

  17. Posted

    4 minutes ago, awc1000 said:

    no reason for it not to end after easing of lock down, an mot like insurance and road tax is a legality, and to many on here presuming their customers won't bother having a "late" mot instead using the 6 month rule (note current rule).

    not everyone is riding around in shite, plenty will want their cars tested again asap.

    That's unbelievable

    I cant think of one customer including myself that is going to not use the full 18 month mot

    I keep my vehicles 100% I do walk rounds on the transporters before they go out why would you go for an early mot

  18. Posted

    1 minute ago, awc1000 said:

    the subject was a down turn in  mots not what the manufacturers are doing to keep customers coming back, but for starters 5 year service packs on new cars, you are welcome to tell me how many of these are sold in percentage terms on new cars????

    Do I have to explain to you eu block exemption?

    If you are in retail  you will know that getting customers to sign in to packages of service and mot is the way to keep them in the dealer network

    Explain your point please

  19. Posted

    13 minutes ago, James Baggott said:

    Love the 570S. Could never ever live with the infotainment system. It’s the most infuriating thing in the world. Great car to drive but I’d go mad with that before the need of the first week. 

    See the value of this?

    https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/mclaren-supercar-sells-online-auction-half-original-price-drops-temporary-blip/191325

    You dont buy that to go to sainsbobs

    You buy it to burn rubber round arrods

    Or you buy it as an investment 

    So the market at the moment for it is nick it or leave it

  20. Posted

    17 minutes ago, James Baggott said:

    Thanks for all your thoughts. I’ll keep an eye out on what happens. Trying to get the best picture from those out there who aren’t on furlough. Not the easiest thing right now...

    Study your autotrader I say for within so many miles of your home

    It's an interesting picture

    All the traders near me who shouldn't be doing this job have cars now that shows as low price, I believe they are on stocking loans and I seriously hope they blow

  21. Posted · Edited by New year revolutions......

    59 minutes ago, awc1000 said:

    why would it decimate mot only garages this time next year? we are only talking about mot business that has been lost during lock down, currently that's about a month's worth, the 6 month extension will likely be scrapped sooner rather than later, it is after all easily possible for a customer to distance themselves from their car whilst having an mot test,and likewise for the mot tester, lets not forget the 6 month extension was quickly thought out during crisis, its very unlikely they will honour that period once folks are let back out.

    It beggars belief some of the thoughts on this forum, and at times makes me wonder how some survive in this job.

    here is exactly what will happen next year regarding mots and how much business the mot stations can expect, all figures quoted are fact not dreamt up like some of the dross finding its way onto the forum.

    next year most vehicles with a current mot will need another one at some point - that's millions of cars, at the same time every car that was registered new in 2018 will be due its first mot at some point - that is another 2.7 million vehicles due an mot test, (2018 confirmed registrations). at what point these vehicles are due a test matters not.

    if any mot stations cant make a living out of that volume of cars then they should give up, most make good money on mot's, the clever ones will not be worrying about next year because next years quota has already been decided  in 2018 (2.7 million new cars plus whatever is already out there)   they will be doing the sums for the year 2023 when they are likely to see an actual decline in numbers partly based on the inevitable decline in new registrations expected for this year.

    So

    Can you tell me what the manufacturers do these days to keep the customers coming back

    Let's start with how many manufacturers only offer a 3 year warranty 

    Next point your month is my 5 weeks so far,I know car salesmen get a bad press but come on

    I shall leave it there but look forward to the discussion on something that in the short term is not even my problem

    2 hours ago, trade vet said:

    If you are talking about the lockdown,factors will be down a lot more than 50%.Not many Euros vans about.Also,I have an involvement with a usually busy car sales and workshop business,it’s closed up.Unlike restaurants and gyms,when it reopens it will be OK,like the other workshops nearbye.

    What about garden nurseries,they invest a load of money in stock ( often borrowed ) ,work like hell to get it ready and only have 3 months to sell it to cover 12 months expenses.They are closed up and will be dumping stock and many will go bust .

    One thing with this lockdown,small businesses in future will have learnt to have a cash reserve rather than operate on the edge.

    Rant Over !

    I dont get your point to be fair

    I explained that the factors trade is down 50% this is obviously unsustainable,you mention euro I only use them for sundries, I buy safety components from another factor

    Regards opening up,I have had not one customer phone me regarding an mot or service,not one,I do not expect when I pull the shutter up I will have anyone there asking me to look at their babies

    In regard garden centres,I've spent an absolute fortune on seeds this last 3 weeks and most seedlings are showing green shoots as suits like to say,I actually went out 2 hours ago and sprinkled slug pellets all round them(you cannot buy these now as the eu banned them so I bought 5 years supply last year) I'm gutted garden centres are shut as they do a great service to time short people like us who like to sit in our gardens rubbing our holborn and smelling the sweet peas come July 

     

  22. Posted

    1 hour ago, trade vet said:

    More bullshit.I do not know any good workshops who were down 50% before lockdown.The problem I constantly hear is that they cannot get good all round mechanics anymore.There must be thousands of vacancies.I know one place who recently employed a good all round mechanic,overall it took 6 months to get him.It is probably easier to sign an out of contract top premier league 

    Factors business is down 50%

    Please read the article I proffered rather than speed scanning it  .......geees 

     

    I haven't bought anything in 5 weeks

    X  that by many businesses like mine that are shut that run their own workshops apurely to support the  car sales and with customer repairs as a nice add on if we have previously sold it

  24. Posted

    8 minutes ago, TangoVictor32 said:

    I don't think it will be distress work. 

    Consumers will be appreciative as they have been for other key workers. 

    On top of that if garages are selling up and the ones that are left, they will be inundated and will take on extra staff to cope with the volume of work. Govt will allow discretion to extend opening hours for example. 

    One thing this pandemic has shown and taught is that people need to be appreciative and have patience. 

    What?

    Are you in this job?

    Most people wont spend a penny on their car unless it becomes an issue for them,they will even be happy to hear a squeak or a bang if the car still drives,you Jack the car up and a road spring is about to impale a tyre wall

    My mot garage has been in business doing mots since the 60,s it is properly run and employes 3 , plus one from college trainee

    Pray tell where their revenue stream is going to come from in the 3 months next year I've outlined, let's assume I'm still in business and the other 2 traders who use them are too,we dont give them any work we just pay trade price on quantity for our mots

    They depend on mot testing to pay their Bill's the ramps get most of their work from failure s

    This garage is as straight as they come

    Customers being appreciative does not pay Bill's

    Sometimes I despair on here

     

  25. Posted · Edited by New year revolutions......

    9 hours ago, TangoVictor32 said:

    Mots will open up sooner if idiots keep driving like nutters and causing accidents. 

    If they behave and vast majority of journeys are A to B for everybody then they will not open soon as. 

    But there will be plenty of work for MOT post lockdown as pretty much all cars will require an MOT

    But this may be phased ie cars that had mot expired earlier must get it done first. 

    Hi tango

    I have 2 personal cars sorned strangely they both run out of mot in this month of may

    The wifes car also needs an mot this month

    They are all getting extended by 6 months so will need a new mot in November

    Theres basically very few mot garages open and even less mot 's being carried out now and for the last 5 weeks  and until sometime in June at the current trend

    So

    Cast yourself forward to march april may next year,what mot work are these garages going to get other than distress work?

    Thank you