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awc1000
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not used in anger or driven hard
....next be telling us they don't chase or ram criminals anymore
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23 minutes ago, Mark101 said:Hilton Park Services M6 - think they have a Travel Tavern (Alan Partridge, a ha)
do they allow your own large plate
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2 minutes ago, Casper said:I guess it depends on the owner lol
true lol, but the worst thing iv'e ever had to worry about with one lady owner cars is the odd clutch now and again, and even then it will only be with one of the usual suspects like C1 / aygo's etc.i'll take that low mileage / historied / lady owned original car over a plod mobile every time thanks.
here's the reality with police cars - they are regularly driven in anger, they ALL have had a bump - some serious, they are used as battering rams, they have had most body fluids weeping inside them, they are de -fleeted when life expired or fooked, they have fook all pedigree, they are an auto electricians nightmare.etc etc.
they do have a following in certain areas as a used car, the only positive being they are / used to be cheap motoring, but lets not kid ourselves that they are any good.
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30 minutes ago, TangoVictor32 said:They're usually bought with half of a dashboard so all the computers can be put into the car (hence you see the T5 Volvos with after market stereos and odd plastic trimmings)
The cars come cheaper this way. Otherwise the cop shop mechanics could keep the standard units and dashboards and reinstall them when they sell the vehicle
Then you got the wiring issues.
Nowadays the blue lights can fit into the actual headlights themselves....so you can imagine how the wiring would be....
The cars are maintained to a good standard i can assure you that.
But i think that service history never comes with the car when it's auctioned off.
Apart from the fact most cars have had good 2nd and 3rd gear thrashing the cars arw driven much better than "one lady owner" (seriously would you buy a car from one lady owner who crunches the gears...and stalled it many times with Lots of bangs)
maintained to a good standard yes probably, as for driven better than or being better than a one lady owner car, then.....er nope
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1 hour ago, David Horgan said:I think the penny is finally dropping pal , had a few recently trying to get out of the rent a car situation , they all thought the car was theirs , how wrong are they
Like i said I've had them in tears here wondering how they are going to out of the mess there in with PCP , Leases , Roll overs so they are in Neg Eq . Time they looked at reality .
Money lending Huge companies are existing on these deals , When Joe public learns it will be interesting i am thinking .
nothing to worry about with pcp, unless you abuse the car of course and get hit with a bill at hand back time, cant have neg eq in a pcp either, the return rv is underwritten by the lender not the punter, indeed some pcp returns in certain brands have / are over performing, it's just that most punters are unaware of this come hand back time.
regards rollovers and subprime it amazes me how some of you chaps manage to deal these folk again,hats off to anyone who can lol.
ref police cars - brightwells leominster still have their police entry's with faults declared by some of the police authority's, some are even getting sent here with brand new tyres to be fit for purpose, talk about wasting authority budgets heh...some decent cars amongst the entry's too - internal user in decent colours too, not my bag but got a trade friend that does ok on these.
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cant beat a numatic george for value and ease of use, about £220 new, you'll get 3 years hard use out of one of these with no agro.
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As mentioned the AT price looks out of bed on this one, volvo bods jumping into the v60 now which look current and value.
however the car has nice pedigree and spec, just think you need to re evaluate the sale.
i would say - pics not great particularly the interior shots, car needs detailing better above valeting, shiny leather is dirty leather.
i would do - thorough detail especially interior, look again at your photo device, photo outside in neutral light, concentrate on detailed interior shots, re word advert, price at 7995.
i wouldn't be worried about stocking this car, it's a nice car, just needs to look as good as it's pedigree suggests.
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1 hour ago, NacMan said:So you hold stock for more than 2 weeks? ok even 3
are you saying you have all your stock away within 3 weeks on average? most dealers work on 60 days before worrying then 90 days before re - evaluate / disposal, basically expect 3 months in stock.
regards your fiat 500, i found the ad, being constructive don't take offence - it's not the best colour, your exterior pics could be improved, like the interior shots however there appears to be stains on the front drivers seat, the black wheel trims look awful, just saying.
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16 minutes ago, NacMan said:What would you say makes a quality advert?
having a quality car
iv'e read the link, they quote " important too still price too market giving quicker sales which means more profit" this is utter bollocks, i don't want autotrader office children telling me how to undersell a car because it's been compared with rubbish by an algorithm, i'd rather they educate the public why my rare low mileage perfect car is worth a premium, (example). i'm not bothered if it takes me a month to sell a quality unit at a premium because that is what really earns me more profit, not underselling it quick at a low price, they must think we are all stupid.
despite all the constant change i still think you can be immune to it by only selling lower mileage stock, i do believe better customers main search criteria is mileage based then price, there's never much to chose from once you alter the mileage search box.
AT,, they'l always be just a host to me, never a partner.
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7 minutes ago, jason doyle motor sales said:yes
what OP needs to do now is get advice from solicitor and if all in order make statement under oath to police that car was driven without his permission
if this isnt done a summons will be coming quick for IN12
SO TO SUMMARISE LEGAL ADVICE FIRST THEN nail this lying person before you get nailed
as above, the mechanic is likely lying because - lookers are not in the business of insuring other traders /staff cars or letting their staff do other jobs on site, if anything his boss at lookers was likely mislead into believing the mechanic owned the car hence possibly allowed to work on it on site, they certainly won't have an appetite for insuring staff cars and certainly not yours.
so best if you go in hard, make a police statement asap that car was used without consent, state car was left on site for work - whether permission for this was granted is not your problem.
regards a claim you are likely to be liable or at least pursued as you simply own the car, regards the issue of putting a car on m.i.d database- if you know the car is elsewhere then yes always cover your back.
finally, find a proper mechanic with his own premises.
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3 hours ago, Mark101 said:Rear Wash Wipe
Lol, remember that being a good extra, got me thinking back to an incident at my vauxhall days again, mid 90's, mk1 corsas were great sellers new, the merit came with nothing and a rear wiper was a good up sell for us, we had an auto electrician who fitted them no problem, one day he fitted one to the wrong new car, no problem yeh just fit another to the right car...not us, wiper was removed and put on the right car, the hole left on the other new car was filled with a rubber grommet and simply handed over
, but in those days you could get away with murder in this job.
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rattle chains tensioners, common on the face lift car with the hams hall engine, this was a recall in the u.s.a, but typically here bmw said no recall.
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good car in it's day, remember doing the showroom launch in i think about 94-95? when i worked at vauxhall, we had a 2.0gls in satin red met on wheel trims lol, pdi'd as a demo then two weeks later it's life was over ending up in a ditch by our director who was a piss head.
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Having a foreign holiday just off cashing tax disc's.
Telling autotrader what to do, getting a free ad if they f**ked up the typo in that weeks mag.
prestige green cars being good news - white cars kiss off death.
smoking something different daily - rarely buying fuel.
fearing monthly book drops.
having a choice of local painters!
two toning lower half of cars.
p38 - large tin please.
pinstripe everything.
dreading an mot - rust.
being able to make good profit at auction - weekly.
being able to buy good cars cheap at auction - weekly.
don't miss - sales managers also having foreign holidays off my brown envelopes, autotrader children telling me how to suck eggs, finding a decent painter, rust, traders bouncing cheques!
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17 minutes ago, MattR said:I think that, under the circumstances, your offer to complete the work yourself rather than getting someone else involved, would stand up in front of a judge if it ever went that far. In the meantime, a simple, firm but fair letter or email stating the simple facts; You will not authorise repairs which add up to almost 3 times the vehicle value. You will consider the repairs if the car is returned to you.
I do think your best way out of this is a refund. Everyone runs a tight ship but you have to have a float. she will not go away after this repair. there are 2 sorts of people who buy 2 grand cars. I think this customer is in the category to avoid.
good point, by fixing it you are open to future abuse, basically you are offering the worlds best warranty.
best to refund, exercise your right to pay within 14? days, decline any claimed ownership costs from her by offsetting "free use of car over said period"
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1 minute ago, JA Trader said:Am i liable if she tells hers garage to start the work without my authority ?
Apologies for all the questions i know cars and i know how to sell but legal is not my strong point.
possibly, but regardless of if you are or not once she has incurred a bill she will likely chase you for the amount through a court,and judges generally hate the motor trade.
also research the garage and ask to see the quote, it's amazing how many change attitude and opinion once the trade calls asking about specifics.
if it did go legal, having offered a courtesy car or collect / refund will be in your favour if she has refused the offer of help.
if it were me i would collect the car and fix it or simply refund and collect.
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try getting her back by offering a courtesy car, if she refuses then fetch the car, either way get the car out of that bandit garage asap, as soon as she tells them to start working on it you lose control and become snookered.
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5 hours ago, tradex said:More AT shite.
I wonder if AT would better improving their valuation algorithm, should take into account ohh, I don't know, how about length of ticket, full, part or no service history, belt in schedule, not a V car, number of owners, warranted miles etc.
good idea tradex, but that would give the dealers who only sell pedigree cars with that criteria an advantage and we cant have that can we
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being cynical (well it is AT!) i would guess it's going to be more beneficial to those who pay for all the add on's bigger package's etc, and i doubt it will have anything to do with AT telling buyers that pedigree cars are worth a premium, whatever it is i'm sure the army of AT children will educate us soon.
as mentioned they should stick to being a host and not a claimed partner.
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Anyone seen or felt /touched these? and if so what's the quality like? the price is coming in at more than OM price's for quality mats, guessing they are sent direct from asia ?with the good old delivery time quote of 21 days lol, wish i could sell everything before i paid for it
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19 minutes ago, Nick M.K. said:Well, tell them the truth:
I have gone the extra mile and have spent a fair bit of time (and money) to research the service history of this car, I paid BMW their £1 a minute on the 0906 number, bought a duplicate service book and personally completed it with all the VERIFIED service information I could find and you now have a book to use to enter the service information during your ownership.
Incidentally the parts desk at my local BMW dealer is so ashamed by the hoops they have to make me jump through when ordering a duplicate book (V5 in my name or an auction invoice as a minimum proof of ownership) that they ask me to buy one online (eBay) and bring it in to be stamped!!!
iv'e never had a problem obtaining a duplicate history books from franchises, most traders in this industry will or should have a good enough relationship with the franchise to make it easy enough to obtain,though these days duplicate service invoices are a problem due to data protection /customers address on etc.
the bmw parts lads as mentioned can make things awkward for good reason - if they issued these items without any questions or cheaply the result is the dodgy side of this trade would just take the piss / advantage and get creative, there will come a time when its all database only like the mot test, once its all online this will rid the trade of more scumbags like the mot online data check did regarding bent mots, and that is a good thing for the rest of us.
the ebayer's who make a living selling service books don't have many morals, there will be no doubt an element of purchasers who get creative with their purchase, the ebay sellers know this, sadly the people doing this practise are wise enough to work out when a franchise closed or was sold etc giving them a good idea how to create a false history.
i have even had in the past a muppet turn up some years ago with a bmw with a book from another car, they hadn't changed it just presumed a different book was ok
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27 minutes ago, Nick M.K. said:Tradegirl, call them again tomorrow.
Tell them you've just bought the vehicle and want to check for outstanding recalls.
Then casually ask them to tell you the dates and mileages of these 2 services.
Buy a blank BMW service book from eBay for £20 or a generic one for £4 and a Dymo label gun.
Enter the details of the two services in the book yourself with the correct date, miles and with the Dymo gun type the dealership name, post code and phone number and stick the label there.
Don't pay those mugs £54 for 2 minutes of admin time!!!
I would rather just tell a buyer that the history is confirmed by bmw, i wouldn't want to explain why i was holding a diy service history book in my hand - not to be confused with a duplicate history book supplied and stamped by the franchise is it....
home made service books (even like for like) are one of the reasons this trade gets a shit reputation, the reality is customers are aware these days that confirmation is easily available and in the future will be only available online like the latest mercedes etc (no service book on these now is standard unless requested).
in my eyes - tradegirl by confirming on the phone with bmw you have already done enough on this particular car, cant see having a book in your hand with just 2 stamps being a deal breaker.
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As a good tech friend of mine once said - the FSI badge stands for f***ing silly idea
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It's just TFSI engines that are prone for problems, not to be confused with 1.8T , 2.0, 2.0T engines which are generally ok.
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the reality is all of these online company's like DA are valued on the basis of number of e-clicks / users, its likely DA will be hoping at some point to cash out the same as autotrade-mail did with selling to autotrader, DA will have zero appetite for getting rid of dishonest sellers as it affects the numbers, regulating it so the seller has more credibility only earns that seller more money, it would not earn DA any extra money, like all online based company's the value is in the amount of users - not the quality of the users, hence its unlikely things will change.
if they start telling the vendors how they "must" use the system - the dishonest ones leave and the honest ones take offence because in their eyes they were doing things right anyway, the result is the platform becomes worth less money, instead its easy for DA to quote "guidelines" for sellers which we know is not worth toffee.
i only ever used the site once the result being an arrogant sales manager thinking i was mug of the week ,so i decided to police the situation myself - bought an a4 avant from an audi franchise, phone call later all good and we will see you tomorrow for collection, i drive 130 miles with my trailer, car looked great, i say is it ok too run it up the road, yes fine they say see you in a while, result is the gearbox is winding-badly, i return the car and leave, could not at this point even be bothered to speak to them, i set off for home and ring them, the cocky manager says its a trade car and the local trade buyers would have take the problem on the chin, i say they havn't though have they hence youv'e dragged me 130 miles to try and took me up on DA, i tell him iv'e left the keys on reception and hang up, half hour later he rings me saying cant find the keys, i tell him again left on reception and hang up, over the next few hours they keep ringing and i just ignored them, they never did find the keys because they came home with me...not a nice thing to do but f**k them they deserved it.
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What's up with the prices?
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much head scratching as to why this type of stock is doing silly numbers, well one answer/reason is the amount of bca dealer finance on offer + stocking loans, and once qualifying the urge to spend the funding, one clever spark i know bought an m3 cab at £32k - couldn't sell it,90 days later when it needs paying for traded it out locally in a panic for £29k , some are even on £300k stocking loans at the minute, all very well if you can juggle it and make it work, but with that kind of stocking finance on offer it's no wonder auction prices are bonkers, appears to now be a whole retail sector who's business plan is based on ad on's + commission as profit rather than having a margin in a car, strange times indeed.