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On 09/06/2019 at 3:42 PM, Daz_720s said:Had an interesting experience a few weeks ago, customer arranged an inspection of a vehicle with a 3rd party company, the inspection bloke turned up had a quick walk around the vehicle, opened the bonnet started it up, looked around the engine bay whilst lighting up a cigarette and completed his inspection within 20 minutes, i've had aa and rac inspections in the past and they can take anything up to 2hrs depending on the type of vehicle it is.
Anyway once he had finished, He said ''All looks good to me mate'' then i get a call from the customer the next day telling me the inspection guy said not to buy the car and that it had lots of faults and that he had a report showing loads of faults, Obviously this was a bit of a shock, so i told the customer that i was not happy with the inspection results of a company that has only been operating for 4 or 5 months, and agreed to send the Audi A8 to Audi for a inspection + health check, it came back from audi with no faults at all.
It just seems there is lots of these so called inspection companies popping up, i doubt they are even qualified engineers,
After doing a few checks on this company i discovered he was a car dealer in slough then a vehicle recovery driver and now a vehicle inspection, I definitely won't be allowing this company or any like this one on my forecourt again, firstly smoking whilst a petrol car is started and has the bonnet open is not wise, Oh and i discovered he didn't have motor trade insurance cover to carry out a test drive, as he requested one of the sales guys accompanies him on the test drive.
missed opportunity ? send your own written appraisal of this blokes company back to your customer explaining how he is an unqualified uninsured failed trader / delivery driver but has a mate who's good at web design and that he's ripped them off...
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2 hours ago, Dave2302 said:I agree with all of that /\ /\ /\ except ....................
Yes, we Petrol Heads all will for a while, but eventually we will be outlawed, 5, 10 perhaps years ???????????
Likely the only place you will be able to use an IC Engined Vehicle by then will be at Classic meets like Goodwood .................
And then you will have to have deep pockets to have said Classic transported to and from the Track by Electric Lorry Transporter company
The clones can wipe out our use of IC Engines overnight with the stroke of a keyboard.
This poxy country is fucked now !!
I might as well tell you all now, I am no longer buying stock / selling Cars etc, Sales is now officially finished for me.
I am currently still running the Workshop, plus investing and training myself in other skills that will be more suited to Clonesville UK.
Whether I eventually actually open my doors to such skills is a moot point, but it gives me plenty to do for the forseeable, and I always love to learn and move with technology.
I am keeping a close eye on a huge modern workshop locally that will be fucked when all this goes through, I just may make an offer and employ a few local guys, or then again I might just sell up, buy a large enough motor yacht and fuck off around the world, (if the Yacht Engines are still allowed by then)
dave , if it gets that bad you can always do illegal merc v8 driving experiences in the highlands ? you'll probably have the last one that didn't get rounded up/hidden ;-)
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14 hours ago, keyboardwarrior said:Hello everyone, first time poster here.
Due to having the worst year on record (having had 12 years experience) when it comes to used car sales, I have been left wondering what on earth is going on. Searched the web to find answers and ended up discovering the cardealermagazine forum (well, the depressing 'who is doing well' threads anyway!).
A serious change in the trade as I see it was when...
- I noticed in the last few years a massive lack of good cars to buy and having to go to auctions where every man and his dog is chasing the same cars at insanely over inflated prices
- Dealers now selling there part exchanges rather than auction them off
- More and more and more people selling to WeBuyAnyCar rather than sell privately (never thought it would have taken off - how wrong I was)
- The plethora of new personal lease cars on the road, especially Audi's, BMW's and Merc's
- How everyone (the regular buyer) became price experts and expected that everything should be priced the same as what Parkers says its worth or what WBAC say its worth
- Elon Musk
Elon Musk - the man who single-handedly destroyed the internal combustion engine, gave the super elites the chance to enforce there agenda on 'climate change' while brain-washing millenials and now as his last party trick... he has killed the used car industry.
I have been trying to think this one out for a while and still keep coming up with the same conclusion. If electric cars are the future (which I detest with a passion) then think of the consequences for those who sell used cars. If you deal in cars eight years or older (which I do) in the sub £3000 to £8000 category, what is it going to be like when you have to sell an EV that effectively has a battery that is degrading before you?
Let me explain. Today I may look at buying a 2010 Golf with a 1.4 engine that has covered 30,000 miles. Lets say the Golf is valued at £5,000 and retails for £6,500. When you buy the Golf, you don't expect its fuel tank to shrink. Your more concerned that there is no lights on the dash, that the diamond cut wheels are in ok shape and that the timing belt (and the waterpump) has been changed.
OK, now, compare that to the future electric Leaf you will have to buy (seeing as the electric Golf on offer just now is never going to be wanted with a 120 mile range). The Leaf is horrible to look at no matter how much motivation you need to just simply try and sell the thing, but hey its what you have and its all you can buy because the Government says so (I digress). You are more concerned that above anything else, the Leaf's battery is still showing full strength and that it has not suffered serious battery degradation, after all your battery is your fuel tank now and with limited range on a EV at present, no one wants one that will travel shorter and shorter distances. The battery replacement cost is insane as well. If you are buying your Leaf to sell for say £5,000 when its eight years old, lets hope that 95%, 90% or 85% battery life left is acceptable to your future customers as replacement of a Leaf battery will set you back £5,000. Then there is another problem, how do you value a used electric car? A car with an engine can be valued based on its mileage as less miles on the engine usually determines the value due to ware and tare. However, an electric car does not have an engine so what difference does a 60k Leaf have over a 20k Leaf? Seriously, what are we appraising here?
This is the problem I have with this technology and this is why I think used electric cars are going to be worthless and in turn, the used car sellers out there might want to think about getting another trade.
If I am wrong in this, please please please let me know. I just can not see this working in the coming years ahead (and when I say that I mean literally the next year or so). Already cars are on the decline with these stupid ULEZ zones and anti-diesel cars. Its suicidal what is happening to the car industry and I just feel furious about it. Good on President Trump for standing up for fossil fuels. Europe is finished.
steady on chap,me thinks you are worrying too much, once the new electric stuff becomes out of warranty and a used car prospect the market will decide the value not us as dealers, it will simply be we choose to sell these or choose not too, as always time will tell which used cars we are happy to run with, as for elon musk and tesla it's looking like time will catch up with him - the established brands have laughed and thanked him for putting electric into the public domain - now they will wipe the floor with him and give him a lesson in branding - check out the latest audi etron's for starters...
for the record here are the latest new figures for may19 year on year, diesel down 18%, petrol up 1%, full electric/plug in up 81%, petrol hybrids up 35%, plug in hybrids were down 40% - probably due to loosing grant status?
the biggest challenge ahead for used dealers will not be how to value these cars but as always how to dodge the ones with issues, future appraisals - ears & eyes might not be enough !!
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the mirror story - just another crap article poorly written by another consumer rights pap / legal expert (parasite).
shame these goons who write this shite don't have the time to use their media clout to push the authority's to make future motoring costs more transparent to the public, instead they choose to chastise the motor trade / trader.
A trader is responsible to ensure the goods are in full working order and fit for purpose, cant see us ever being responsible for the legality of how to use or the running costs of said goods? as soon as we start quoting negatives based on what "might" happen to running costs in the future we will probably be accused of influencing the buyers decision, cant win.
the article even mentions compensation for future residual value failings, again no mention of the reality that the government are sneaky fookers and have a habit of moving the goalposts, or the punters car was so good that it sold well hence used supply affected its future residual.
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39 minutes ago, TangoVictor32 said:Yes but diesel was pampered in 2008 especially earlier!
So if you got 6 diesel cars totalling £40k and they have been stood for weeks and weeks.... You'll be looking to lose a lot of £££
In 2008 it was JUST the financial aspect. In 2019/20 you got a range of issues and this whole push for rapid environmental climate change.
Yes you do change with the market but like I say you dont know when you might get hit as above you could be sitting on half a dozen diesels as 2 weeks earlier the same models sold like hot cakes and now they dont. And as time goes on they wont be wanted...whereas before you could wait it out... As time goes on the emissions compliance date gets closer and more towns and citied adopt the no diesel approach....
cant see a problem with diesel anytime soon apart from a slight realign of road tax duty / fuel increase, neither of which will outlay the mpg gains from an oil burner, granted new diesel sales are declining but the used market will have legs for sometime, i don't see joe blogs changing his used £12k audi avant for anything else anytime soon, if anyone has 40k invested across 6 diesel units they cant sell then they are either the wrong ones or have no pedigree or were bought / marketed / priced wrong.
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21 minutes ago, Wheelerdealer1 said:Your forgetting we buy any car, the fact that these days anyone can just look online and get and know exactly what their car is worth, gone are the days of picking up local bargains and getting great priced px cars in stock, the public now are better armed
not forgetting them at all, the fact is there is that much traffic diverted too wbac the reality is they don't bid what you might think anymore, if you have a local one then great use it too your advantage, just understand their buying patterns and you can beat their price easily if your customer quotes them, don't forget its BCA owned and only price driven by demand from the auction, couple to that the fact that bca realise the trade does not have much appetite for wbac entrys, example- summer, they often bid only 80% of cap clean for 4x4, (ive sat with wbac managers and witnessed them buy stuff at 70% cap, it happens) they also don't like mileage cars either, beating a wbac quote is usually easy and not a problem, dealing with a customer armed with an autotrader "opinion" of a value is a bigger problem not wbac.
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5 minutes ago, trade vet said:You are very fortunate that you can still buy direct from franchise dealers,that fizzled out many years ago for most of us.I much prefer ex fleet stuff although I rarely buy it these days as we only have a small pitch and I am very part time.We now just buy from the local BCA and at the door,I don’t even buy online anymore.If I was starting out again it would definately not be in this business.
I certainly would not want too start out again either in today's market, it does need to be said though - some of the trade have become a bit conditioned in how they think the job should work, so many dealers do not exploit or exhaust local avenues for sourcing stock, there's an whole army of dealers who just buy auction / online and incur indemnity and transport fees of £3-400 per unit before even prep starts, not saying that's completely wrong but these units should be topping up your stock not be the core of it...
just out of interest any retailers want to show on here the old method of working out what your stock profile actually currently is ?? just take your ten dearest cars - work out your average miles (add and divide x10) average price (add all 10) and average age of unit, add engine cc capacity's if you want, be interested to see what folk are running with?
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2 minutes ago, trade vet said:I have just realised you are a ‘ doorstepper ‘,I agree with what you say.It also helps a lot if you have nice property in a desirable location when selling from the door.Late ex fleet stuff won’t work from the door,yet for a lot of pitch guys ex fleet is the best stock to have.....BTW I was doorstepping as a 17 year old !
doorstepper not quite lol, lets just say i was in 1983 at 17 years old, and reverted back to being a doorstepper on the dearer stuff until recently- from a very nice doorstep lol. these days just underwrite mostly late / franchise
one things for sure, i wouldn't want the challenge these days of filling a pitch with stock i would be happy with, but if i did try i wouldn't be relying on just fleet stock from the block.
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6 minutes ago, trade vet said:I have to tell you AWC that what is good stock for you may not be good stock for others operating elsewhere.Its horses for courses in this job,you must sell what the punters want and not what you prefer.In my experience it has always been a fact that the most profitable guys in this job sell stuff most of us would not touch....If you have found a niche that is good,but they never last.
I'm not talking about niches, i'm talking about any car with pedigree, lower miles, low owners, proper history, decent spec, originality, granted these units are harder too find and compromise is the order of the day...but when dealers are happy too compromise on most of these factors then what do they expect? too many newer people in the job think stock comes from auction and that's how it works - period, plenty of people moaning about dead stock when it's quiet, the reality is it was probably wrong stock or bought wrong to start with, still plenty of dealers thinking every car is a retail prospect - it isn't and never has been, some dealers don't even realise what their stock profile is after they have bought it lol.
heh sorry if it all sounds a bit negative but its reality isn't it, on a positive note trade-vet glad to hear things have calmed down at the block and hope you managed to buy some nice cars at the right money.
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3 minutes ago, BHM said:I must have spoken to about 10 traders this week. Every single one has said it’s desperate.
Just ignore the arsehole offers, they never come to anything & just suck the life out of you if you let them.
It’s so dead the auction halls are all half-empty of bidders - I’ve been to five different sites in the last fortnight & they were all the same. After wading through the battered shite there are a few nice cheapish cars if you’ve got money to spend.
Retailing is currently knackered just about everywhere. I see yet another major high street operator (Arcadia Group) are closing more stores than anticipated. It’s the start of the slippery slope - I assume they’ll be history in another couple of years.
I struggle to believe anything above 5K is an automatic seller and also that anyone’s ‘having it off’ at the moment.
depends as ever on spec mileage and pedigree, granted the job is slower at the moment, but folk have forgotten how to or have given up on how to profile /obtain the right stock, selling basic spec cheap cars with over average miles isn't and never has been the answer, the good stuff will always be the last type of stock too slow up when its quiet.
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1 hour ago, TangoVictor32 said:But the sites give you a final price. So if it was £500 cheaper then you pay that you dont ask them to knock off another £300.
Yet the same people go into a shop and pay £1000 for an iphone x or £2000 for a 65" tv (yet most dont know if you ask the currys manager he may knock off something or Chuck in a longer warranty)
I do believe in political classes in line with buying patterns...
Dont think Tory supporters will send daft offers or ask for last price without viewing. If so it will be a very small number
On the other hand you got the fascists with no teeth in a rough estate whos 02 reg Clio died and now he's looking at a £1800 motor and says "I'll gis yous £700quid for it m8?"
Then he'll come over with another 10 chavs expecting a brand new car
Seriously thinking of folding if this continues.
I much rather get into property. Do an empty house up and sell it. Less people to deal with = less hassle
Its always been standard practice to have the last price brigade take the p>ss if your selling cars sub two grand, they just don't go away when things are slow, i guess if they are skint chancer's they are immune to any economic downturn lol.
tangovictor - i thought you were a band of 6 down in wealthy cornwall? iv'e got trade friends doing very well in your neck of the woods on anything from 5k upwards if it has pedigree, whats your main stock profile =- age/miles/price? maybe change your stock profile a bit? nice cars attract nice folk etc.
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2 minutes ago, Jaime said:Jason Doyle and EPV. I completely understand. You get salty people in all trades, they everywhere you go and you've got to just keep away.
I might have to seriously look at online bidding as I would struggle to get to these places on time due to being in full time employment.
In regards to tradex and his comments about making up a business plan and reckoning that I will earn less than what I am on, I would highly doubt that. I earn good money but with my own business and eventually doing this full time I would hope to be earning more than what I am on at the moment. Unless TRADEX is doing something wrong ofcourse. Please enlighten me. I understand creating a business plan but why the mention of earning less than what I am currently on?
ok jaime fair enough, if you already have the ability to find decent stock off facebook etc good for you, although i cant see how you can prep it, warrant it, be legit, pay dues etc and still be in profit, its easy to become a busy fool in this job, if you do settle into this job in time you will have the same opinion on the cheap stuff as the rest of us - its simply in the majority of cases junk, can you give examples of the price of cars you are buying?
being positive here are the reality's of starting out legit whilst still employed elsewhere and a few answers to your questions -
insurance - for you likely 3000-4000 a year as a new starter, you will need demo cover etc, your already using your tax allowance in your job so factor in 28% of all profit for tax/n.i, vat will soon follow at 1/6th of your margin - don't confuse this with profit margin, refunds on cars are now law and common so whatever you sell a car for you will need to keep that full amount in reserve to refund if needed, in short you need to be well funded even too start in this job,
your employer will also take a dim view of your activity when they find out which they will at some point, its probably best if you have a hard think of whats involved and do the full costings first, i'm guessing you have a family and working in franchising you will already not have much free time? you need to also consider this, no amount of money will compensate problems at home through lack of family time, been there done that...
regards real earnings mentioned by tradex i think hes pointing to this which is reality - you currently earn probably 12k basic and a further 6-10k commission, you will be seeing a lot of this as you have a tax allowance of 12k plus you have no overheads at your current job, if you want to take home 2k in this job then you best get used to the fact that you need 3500-4k profit to do so, as mentioned you will need more than one car in/ out to achieve this, plus it sounds like you are not funded either, sorry if it all sounds negative but you dont seem to be taking on board any advice.
in summary - you need to do a total costings, and you absolutely need some funding, good luck.
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regards being salty and toxic, well its no wonder really is it because - you work for skoda which is one of the best franchise's to work for - good growth and decent wages, yet you slate your employer and begrudge them profit even after they have invested in you and employed you for four years , you also state you source stock from facebook and the like, in other words you are selling junk on the side, that's fine but yet you also claim you want to give great customer service but you are asking about warranty issues after you have started selling so i'm guessing you currently offer zero cover, you have even asked about trade insurance so i'm guessing you have none even though you mention you have / are already selling cars so you are in reality already taking the p*ss.
so when one of your customers you claim you are going to look after rings you with a problem during the day - do you answer the phone at work and take the p*ss out of your employer or ignore the call and take the p*ss out of the customer?
nobody begrudges someone trying to improve themselves or their lifestyle, find the right ethics and you will get all the help you need on this forum from a bunch of nice folk who are happy to help and know what they are talking about, you will probably have gathered by now the trade hate nothing more than people not paying their dues or not doing the job right hence the broad spectrum of comments you are / will be getting.
note - above comments are just an opinion - but based on what you have told us.
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37 minutes ago, Jaime said:F*** me Jason Doyle, your the only person who has given what I expected. This moody lot are very negative. I understand there are negatives which I would like to understand and overcome.
So if I register as a sole trader, I reduce my tax liabilities? Please elaborate...
Proper sales mediums? Please elaborate again sorry.
Self warrant.. as in putting money aside yourself and getting the problem sorted yourself with connections in the trade?
I look forward to hearing from you.
with respect fella we do get a bit moody on here when people ask questions like "what do i need" and "what does self warrant mean" , especially after someone has mentioned they have four years experience in a franchise, can you enlighten us on which franchise you work for and why your not happy there?
on a serious note most of the answers you are looking for for can be found on gov,co,uk regarding setting up a business and your liabilitys, just factor in vat as used cars come under used goods margin rules, but i'm guessing but you already know that bit by working in franchising.
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1 hour ago, Jaime said:The odd car we scrounged around for on Facebook/Shpock/Gumtree - we got margins of £300 - £600 profit. We never made a loss and never struggled.
"Try it and tell me how you get on" --- I am going to try it but part-time first hence my post above but obviously I would like some questions answered for guidance as I want everything to be straight & legal.
I would advise you too stay put at your franchise or find a job at a better one, if you are serious about starting out whilst keeping your current job then you already don't have time for this job,
regarding staying legal - your already using your tax allowance in your job so any profit on the side you will be paying tax on plus vat eventually plus your overheads - bank on retaining 60% of the profit if lucky, don't sound so appealing now does it.....
the franchise you work at who you say you are fed up with only earning a percentage of every deal will be posting annual profit results of around 2-3% of turnover just like the majority do, i'm guessing your on circa 10% a deal commission plus a basic sallary plus a company car so heho your not doing too bad ...
with respect - if your asking the questions you have asked and quoted what you think is a margin then this job probably isn't for you....yet, what you should be doing is working out how to buy the franchise's p/ex cars that you work at, many ways of doing this you just havnt worked it out yet.
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1 hour ago, Stalker said:See you there in the morning, my next door neighbours house is up for sale, I shall steal the for sale sign and paint it with white paint and write on it in black paint...
”Autotrader = Thieves”
Actually... can you pick me up, I sold my car this morning on Autotrader.
advanced comedy level- gold sir
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4 hours ago, TangoVictor32 said:Auto corrected it
Even BCA try to insist sold as seen i did tell them there is no such thing and if the condition has deteriorated since the photos are taken then sold as seen doesnt stand.
what was the response when you told them that? the reality is its an auction and you pay yer money and take yer chance - that's how it's always been, granted if bca are offering a grade system then it should mean something - but we all know its a farce and holds no real value, anyone in this job who thinks they are going to start telling them otherwise is with respect inexperienced or naive, as iv'e said before the auction game is all about returning x for the vendor and disposing of ALL of the entry's by the vendor, its not and has never been about selling 80% for good money and telling the vendor the rest are fooked and we cant sell them, if the day ever comes that an auction has to stand on the goods they sell then joe public will start to buy everything anyway and the trade will be fooked even more, you cant have it both ways or all good, it has to be said the vast amount of horror story's on here regarding bca have been cars bought online unseen, a harsh lesson and as said you should be able to trust the grading system - but you shouldn't be falling for this fiasco more than once.
regards DA yes its a minefield but again too many folks bid without taking due diligence, even a quick call to the vendors sales manager will always give you a clue of their real morals, regardless of the car.
so whats the answer/ solution and what will change? - in short nothing, too many players and too many stocking plans and auction credit has ensured it will continue as is, well healed experienced buyers are no longer needed, only a handful of group buyers now have any clout regarding rejecting cars easily, its never been easier for auctions to shift all the stock at all the money without making so little effort.
I wouldn't want to be starting out in this job now, or be a newbie to this trade, if you are - good luck you might need it.
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that 1.6tdi drive train is on the VAG emissions recall, you might be lucky if it hasn't yet had its recall / update.
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1 minute ago, CCC said:Had pondered this as the exchange rate slides. Got a brother in Canada so was thinking of looking for LHD stuff to export. And as you say, 25 yr rule helps. I think Skylines will be hitting this shortly, though all RHD I guess.
not just or really LHD, and i think skylines are available stateside already? there is stuff here that wasn't available in the states for various reasons emmissions / crash safety etc, a lot of these will start to leave the u.k under the 25 year exemption rule, a certain brands better models are now starting to qualify for the 25 year rule and coupled to the dollar buying a lot of sterling i'll not be surprised to see and exodus here.
6 minutes ago, twerp said:That scene has been milked already for the past few years
Remember when R32 GTRs were £5k...not the later euro spec cars yet, these are not eligible stateside until being 25 years old, currently that means 1994 and backwards, the later euro hotter spec cars 95-98 will be on the export radar soon, if you have one hang onto it for now!
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3 hours ago, Blenheim Car Sales said:Been covered before but its obvious from talking to people on my cars that the add has not in the slightest has been read, MOT Service History and Warranty questions ant yet its all covered in add wording,
My question then is how are these customers forming an opinion of why they should call or come and see my cars as apposed to other cars if they are ignorant to the add wording, It cant purely be down to pretty pictures
still quite a lot of customers unable to view an AT add in full format on certain mobile phones, most of them unaware there is a view in full web format option.
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7 hours ago, KJPAuto said:I'm a car dealer in the States, have UK citizenship, (born in England). I'm exploring an export business sending American cars back to England. Shipping VAT import fees seem pretty straight forward but unclear of the legal requirements to sell in the UK. For starters I'd likely do less than 10 cars a year. Have storage facilities in England, don't need a designated car lot/dealership. Any advice would be appreciated!
not much call for it now for a few reasons, classics have slowed here, exchange rate poor, the few main sellers now available here in right hand drive - mustang, corvette cadilac sr. etc?there is a bit of life in british classics in lhd if they are cheap basket cases.
being u.s.a based you should use it too your advantage and try it in reverse- exchange rate is good for you, and you should be looking closer at your u.s.a 25 year rule if you know what i mean, just don't tell everyone
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14 minutes ago, David Horgan said:If your not aware there are trials at a couple of BCA auctions going on right now were they have introduced another check system .
For cars without the assured report they are trialling a check that checks lights , horn , indicators , and a few simple checks .
All for the sum of £7.50 per car . With this so called check there is no claims procedure at all .
Seems to be another way of attaining £7.50 x a few thousand cars to me .
they have phoned me to ask if I like it or not so I said no as every pro trader looks at those items anyway so why charge us £7.50 .
I bought over 300 cars last year from BCA and if that was all essential checked my bill would have been in the region of £2,500 or approx £50 a week .
What will these crooks think of next to skin money from us .
I would tell your local auction how you feel the next time your on the email system , if we all shout loud they might back down .
Never know .
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Is it a good idea ?
I think regardless of the cost its an insult to a pro dealers intelligence, much rather they do something more constructive like for £75 they could give a car a cold start check and a proper test drive engine/box by a proper mechanic rather than a crap stationary report by a car parking chap, that would be worth £75 and the uptake worth employing someone to do the job.
but in reality they don't want to upset the vendors by telling them their entry is fooked, both parties already know anyway!.... easier to fook us over, even easier now with the bun fight for stock since the auction credit launch.
1 minute ago, awc1000 said:I think regardless of the cost its an insult to a pro dealers intelligence, much rather they do something more constructive like for £75 they could give a car a cold start check and a proper test drive engine/box by a proper mechanic rather than a crap stationary report by a car parking chap, that would be worth £75 and the uptake worth employing someone to do the job.
but in reality they don't want to upset the vendors by telling them their entry is fooked, both parties already know anyway!.... easier to fook us over, even easier now with the bun fight for stock since the auction credit launch.
and if anyone wants to uptake the bca light check for £7.50 - i can send my lad round to yours who will do it for a fiver a car as long as you have 25+ units...
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2 hours ago, Area 51 said:Oooops looks like I forgot to insert the link I referred too, trawling back through the inbox, this is what I got the morning of post, 02Oct18....
Its just opinionated speil from some bod from a finance house hoping to gain more business, and it doesn't even make sense, whatever the franchises do in the near future regarding new or late used its unlikely to involve around this particular finance house too much.
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1 hour ago, TangoVictor32 said:Thanks for the quick response folks.
My issue is who do i contact and i would ideally need a number for royal mail service centre.
BHM i have had little interest for 4 months now.
Those that contact want service history.
And most Dont contact because it's a red van
Dont know what would be worse a red van or an ex dhl yellow one!
how old is the van and at what price is it advertised?
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none of this is currently affecting / or will affect you,
1- zero emission's by 2050 means goods made "after/from " that date are eligible for zero emissions, that's 30 years away, we will all be retired or dead by then....
2-pendragons failings - shares are down 20% today(mostly the carshop arm) - well this is good news for the rest of us.
3-autotrader loosing value- yippee,good news.
the reality - larger used groups and franchise's are currently having pain, many of these will have no choice but to be involved in the transition that is coming, casualty's will be certain, coupled to the man in the streets perception of electric / hybrid as a used purchase...
despite doom news and uncertainty over new tech and regulation, we as used car dealers still have and will have the luxury of choosing what we sell, in the short too medium term in my opinion the used car game is looking rosy.
you forgot the pan roof / gun turret conversion, and i'm only signing up if tina turners involved ;-)