I've said enough about AutoTrader so won't be commenting (bad for the blood pressure) - you pays your money (lots of it!) and you takes your choice. Just don't expect them to do you any favours or listen to your complaints. Or answer any questions. Or play fair with you regarding transparency of pricing. AutoTradeMail does not seem to be any use at all nowadays. It was when it was independently-owned, but then AutoTrader got hold of it and, as is their way, got greedy and are now flying it into the ground. Have a look at www.cartotradedotcom - same guys who started ATM, without the greed and the bad attitude. And without the greed. Did I mention the greed?