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  1. Posted

    After starting the discussion last week I noticed this article in the news

     

    it basically says that Manheim Auction will be disposoing of up to 400 cars per week that have been sourced by we want any car, as I understand the situation, Manheim either own or are investors in wewantanycar and are therefor sourcing their own stock and selling it, again i can not see how this differs from having your own garage and being responsible for the cars mechanical well fare for 3 to 6 months, yet a car sold through the Auction is sold as seen.

     

    You try and do that from a pitch or a garage and see how quickly Trading Standards take you to court, Im not advocating that garages shouldnt give warranties, but the Auctions are clearly attracting more Private Buyers, they compete at Auctions with Traders and drive the prices.

     

    I personally think this is a loophole that should be looked into, needs to be a level playing field where the Auctions are seperated for Trade and Private, all cars at the Private Sale should have been inspected,all the necessary checks carried out, the car should have a Warranty, they should get the chance to test drive it and bring a "Lunatic who they refer to as a Knowledgable Friend" <------- Dont get me started, or a mechanic,

     

    Lets see how many Staff they need to employ to do that, and what effect it has on the prices!

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    BCA dont even comply with their own rules.  

     

    Here's my gripe, 5 years ago I purchased a Renault Megane (I know your going to say that its my fault, but hear me out)  It stated warranted mileage of 62k.  I sold the car and 3 months later after a few issues which I had sorted out for the customer, it turned out he was like a dog with a bone he started to question the miles and managed to find out that the history was forged and the mileage was incorrect, it had actually done just over 135k, They had done a great job of hiding it.  This didn't go down well with any of us as you can imagine and when I approached BCA explaining the mileage was warranted, they told me that whatever the vendor states, is their liability.  Well, they weren't very helpful at all, after  several phone calls, they explained that the vendor is a regular seller and they had never had issues with them before, but conveniently the vendor went bankrupt and BCA didn't want to know anymore, they completely washed their hands of it, leaving me with an empty wallet, a very sour taste in my mouth and a very upset customer.

     

    If warranted miles doesn't mean that the mileage is warranted.  WTF does anything they say mean? 

     

    I haven't bought a car from BCA since, and my reputation is back in tact.

    Thats interesting, so what do you pay indemnity for

  6. Posted

    Firstly, a garage can sell a car to a private buyer without giving a Warranty. There is no legal obligation on a garage to provide anyone with a warranty...

    http://www.lawgistics.co.uk/used-car-warranties/motor-trade-warranty-guarantee-service-contract/warranties-the-legal-requirements-when-selling-second-hand-cars

    However a private buyer does have legal rights when buying from a trader...

    http://www.lawgistics.co.uk/used-car-warranties/motor-trade-warranty-guarantee-service-contract/what-are-the-customers-legal-rights-when-buying-a-used-car

    What has been missed here is that the Auction House almost never owns the vehicles that are sold.

    They are acting as an agent of the owner who is wishing to sell it. If the owner/seller is a private individual, their Sale of Goods/contractual obligations are very limited and a greater risk is passed to the buyer as regards defects.

    Where the seller/owner is doing so in the course of trade or business then the Sale of Goods Act does apply.

    If the buyer is a private individual then the Unfair Contract Terms Act prevents their legal rights from being eroded.

  7. Posted

    So British Car Auctions bought We Buy Any Cars, good source of cheap vehicles for their Auctions

    Auction Day at BCA you cant swing your Glasses Guide round with out hitting 10 Shell Suit Wearing Private Buyers pushing a pram round

    A garage cant sell a car to a private without giving a Warranty, but Private Buyers can stand next to a Trader at an Auction and drive the prices up

    So my question is, if a Private can buy a car at an Auction without a warranty, why cant the trade sell cars without a Warranty?

    At least at a garage they can have a test drive and examine the car properly, they cant do that at Auction

    As it would seem the Auctions are encouraging private buyers to attend their sales, i suggest they should be made to give warranties too

    This is a guess at best, but I am sure that BCA/Webuyanycar will now be one of the largest retailers of used cars in the UK ( allegedly )

    If the car is bought by webuyanycar BCA is the buyer and the retailer, if a private buys a car then surely he should be given a warranty?

    I know one thing for certain, if Auctions had to give a Warranty on the cars they sell to Joe Public, there would be barbed wire and a moat round them to keep the privates out

    The subject is open for discussion

    Does anyone agree, or disagree ?

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  8. Posted

    I dont get attached to cars, so I've never really sold one that i wish i had kept for myself. Perhaps the closest was the brand new Boxster 550 Anniversary Special that I bought in 2004 however I've sold plenty of cars to customers who i wished i hadnt sold them to, heres just 3 examples

    http://bccars.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/gang-man-style.html

    http://bccars.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/porsche-guy.html

    http://bccars.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/the-straw-that-broke-me-and-bc-cars.html

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  10. Posted

    Barrie, firstly there is very little wrong with my motal compass, I just don't class everyone as crooks because they haven't got a site. Yes I agree the council should look into the fact they are using a public highway to trade from and trading standards should be paying close attention to ALL dealers who aren't comlpying to the law.

    Just because the person you saw wasn't carrying 50 sets of car keys doesn't mean everyone is. The crooks aren't in it for the long term, they just want to make quick money and rip people off. If they last a few year maybe you should offer them a little respect because it means they must be doing something right.

    In all honesty I choose to worry about my own business and not what others are doing, with the internet and how people search for car every car dealer is next door to each other. If they worry you so much I'm afraid the motor trade isn't the place for you and your morale compass.

  12. Posted

    I give up, if your moral compass isnt working then i cant point you in the right direction. even if they didnt take business off me, i still wouldnt want a line of someone elses cars parked out side my pitch that i was paying a fortune in rent and rates and they were paying nothing for exactly the same real estate.

    And if you think these people are just trying to start a business youre kidding yourself, the person i saw the other day had a loop with at least 50 car keys on it, he had a business and it was a big one with no premises, no overheads, no come backs and probably no taxes or vat.

    If someone operates a business where the only point of contact is a pay as you go phone and a spot on the A6 where the car used to be parked, to my mind there can only be one reason

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  13. Posted

    Kido, you have missed the point, im not having a pop at the traders who are confident enough in their cars that they are prepared to sell them from home, where they could be found at any time of the day or night by disgruntled punters, or visited by trading standards should there be a dispute.

    I'm talking about the pond life who park their cars on a public road near a reputable garage and try to hijack their customers with their no overheads, shiny shit mobiles, and their only means of contact is a pay as you go mobile thats sim card which will be in the bin as soon as Joe Gullible hands over his cash.

    I am also willing to bet that most of these road side private/traders who do go on to open their own garages are the ones who will also go on to star in tv programs too, like watchdog and rogue traders

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  14. Posted

    They are parasites, plaguing local car dealers by strategically parking their piles of auction fodder as close as they can get to the legitimate dealers pitches, hoping that the dealer attracts a customer by spending thousands and thousands a year on rent, rates, staff, insurance, advertising, paying vat and income tax, but because the customer has to drive by all their cars before he gets to you, maybe, just maybe the customer is stupid enough to stop and buy one from there lay-by display

    Theres a Citroen Main dealer close to the centre of Preston they must pay a fortune in business rates, directly across the road from them theres a lay-by thats just big enough to park 4 cars, yesterday there were 4 cars parked there, all for sale, and all belonging to private/traders.

    But for sheer cheek you cant beat this one that i saw a while back, Saturday afternoon parked on double yellow lines on the main shopping high street in Preston with a for sale sign in it, yep he may have got a thirty pound parking ticket, but just imagine how much a day it would cost to open the doors if you had a showroom there post-29-0-38007800-1383428301_thumb.jpg

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  15. Posted

    i was looking at a repair on a mini door, firstly the repair was awful, well actually it was pathetic, the paint was the wrong colour, it had been masked badly, there was paint all over the door trim, which actually clips off in seconds, the paint and laquer were already starting to peel off round the door handle, as the surface obviously hadnt ben flatted or degreased properly, the car would retail at £6000 but with the door like that, i doubtt if it would ever sell at all, every single bit of the repair was shoddy and unnacceptable at any price, yet someone, somewhere has signed a satisfaction note, then jumped in it and driven off

  16. Posted

    I'm of the opinion that the standard of paintwork repairs are getting worse, in fact some of them ate so bad that they actually devalue the car more than if it had come in with damage, its a lot easier to do the repair right in the first place than it is to rectify a repair thats been done by some incompetent half wit who, i cant believe that privates actually accept this shoddy workmanship, in effect they pay for it twice , once when its done, and again when they trade their car in, whats happening?