911 Part Ex Any Interest

[Earunder 69]

Hey guys,

Got a customer on one of our cars and he has a Y (2001) Carrera 4, 911 (996), 3.4 Manual with 107k on the clock.  It falls outside our retail criteria so offered it around to our local prestige car specialist who didn't get overly excited as he said they just sit there not selling.  I found that quite strange so thought if anyone has any appealing appetite for these to send me a pm.

Thanks in advance!

[Tom 164]

Try the Facebook trade page? https://www.facebook.com/groups/304231463443682/

[Earunder 69]

11 minutes ago, Tom said:

Try the Facebook trade page? https://www.facebook.com/groups/304231463443682/

Ooooh Nice 1!  Never thought of looking on Facebook!

[Tom 164]

1 minute ago, Earunder said:

Ooooh Nice 1!  Never thought of looking on Facebook!

Someone on there might bite on it

[MarkTVS 209]

Yeah I couldn’t get rid of our 996 Turbo manual, lots of weird Porsche perverts but a very tough cookie to sell. I wouldn’t touch another one.

[BHM 994]

I wouldn’t have a friggin’ clue but I’d imagine with 99% of the punters on an old ‘price range’ 911 you wouldn’t want to spend a night out in the pub with them. Also I’d guess half of them wouldn’t be able to raise enough money for a round of drinks.

[metcars 394]

26 minutes ago, BHM said:

I wouldn’t have a friggin’ clue but I’d imagine with 99% of the punters on an old ‘price range’ 911 you wouldn’t want to spend a night out in the pub with them. Also I’d guess half of them wouldn’t be able to raise enough money for a round of drinks.

This. Ragging around in a 20yr old Porsche is like a grenade with the pin pulled out? The poor old thing will probably end its days on an ‘over optimistic’ track day!

[sparky 274]

10 hours ago, BHM said:

I wouldn’t have a friggin’ clue but I’d imagine with 99% of the punters on an old ‘price range’ 911 you wouldn’t want to spend a night out in the pub with them. Also I’d guess half of them wouldn’t be able to raise enough money for a round of drinks.

Wouldn't want to spend any time with them, and I'd hate to see what's on their hard drive.

[Dave c 5]

Cummon . A 19 year old Porsche? Who could offer a warranty on that? Gotta be a money pit waiting to happen.

[justina3 518]

6 hours ago, Dave c said:

Cummon . A 19 year old Porsche? Who could offer a warranty on that? Gotta be a money pit waiting to happen.

I disagree the 996 was a solid engine if it’s been looked after it will outlast all the other German rubbish, the 997 is when you needed a big bank balance in Maintance.

[metcars 394]

4 hours ago, justina3 said:

I disagree the 996 was a solid engine if it’s been looked after it will outlast all the other German rubbish, the 997 is when you needed a big bank balance in Maintance.

True, but a Porsche is only good one thing. And any 20yr old performance car makes you wince when you approach the Rev limit?

Edited February 1, 2020 by metcars

[Halfpenny 114]

996 is a solid car, especially the 3.6. IMS bearing is the only major concern. Sold a few with no major issues and also done work on a few. The GT2 is very complex though and best avoided.

Of course any 20 year old car has exceeded its design life and potentially costly in future.

[metcars 394]

**Sigh**

IMS is mostly scare mongering from the aftermarket. In reality only the very early first generation cars were affected; Porsche upgraded the bearing themselves. Of those that have had the bearing replaced only a small percentage actually needed to. The ‘magic’ ims bearing replacement is in itself not without risks? If you really want to buy an old car and feel the need to spend a couple of grand on a pre emptive strike, save it for a clutch or new brakes. 

[Earunder 69]

Thanks guys for all the feedback, much appreciated.  Will be putting it up on the FB group to see if there is any trade interest in it  

[Halfpenny 114]

2 hours ago, metcars said:

**Sigh**

IMS is mostly scare mongering from the aftermarket. In reality only the very early first generation cars were affected; Porsche upgraded the bearing themselves. Of those that have had the bearing replaced only a small percentage actually needed to. The ‘magic’ ims bearing replacement is in itself not without risks? If you really want to buy an old car and feel the need to spend a couple of grand on a pre emptive strike, save it for a clutch or new brakes. 

It was far from scaremongering. My brother's 2002 996 failed after about 2 years and 30k miles. All covered by Porsche UK. There was a big legal case from customers in the US and IIRC they were admitting 5-10% had failed before they modified the engine in 2006.

OTOH we probably have sold half a dozen (quite long time back) with no problems.

[Kes 7]

8 hours ago, justina3 said:

I disagree the 996 was a solid engine if it’s been looked after it will outlast all the other German rubbish, the 997 is when you needed a big bank balance in Maintance.

+1 At least one reasonable comment. Thanks.

 

[metcars 394]

5 minutes ago, Halfpenny said:

It was far from scaremongering. My brother's 2002 996 failed after about 2 years and 30k miles. All covered by Porsche UK. There was a big legal case from customers in the US and IIRC they were admitting 5-10% had failed before they modified the engine in 2006.

OTOH we probably have sold half a dozen (quite long time back) with no problems.

Don’t forget many cars had perfectly good bearings changed for no reason due to the general furore. The ims bearing issue has helped a lot of independent Porsche specialists put their kids through college?

[justina3 518]

I have been lucky enough to have owned 4 of them and never had a bearing issue.

 

[Blenheim Car Sales 111]

Older German cars are built to an engineering standard, Current German cars are built to an accountants price point

[Dave c 5]

On 2/1/2020 at 8:22 AM, Halfpenny said:

996 is a solid car, especially the 3.6. IMS bearing is the only major concern. Sold a few with no major issues and also done work on a few. The GT2 is very complex though and best avoided.

Of course any 20 year old car has exceeded its design life and potentially costly in future.

That’s where I was coming from (about the age).
Any component could fail now ( and they’re not cheap to fix)leaving a large bill, hence my comment about being a money pit. Just saying....

 

[justlooking 48]

We’ve sold 10+ in last couple years, 3.4/3.6 with no IMS issues pre or post sale.

Only big problem was getting a leggy 997 out of BCA with a big engine misfire, turned out to need just a couple engine sensors 

[metcars 394]

11 hours ago, justlooking said:

We’ve sold 10+ in last couple years, 3.4/3.6 with no IMS issues pre or post sale.

Only big problem was getting a leggy 997 out of BCA with a big engine misfire, turned out to need just a couple engine sensors 

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