BHM

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  1. 11 minutes ago, Mojo121 said:

    When the prices are like this I let the others buy then they drop down silly in a few weeks when they're all sat on crap.

    Snap. It's hard enough selling nowadays without buying overpriced stock - adding £3-500 to my prices certainly won't help my sales figures.


  2. 2 hours ago, andymc1973 said:

    they give too much for these trade ins and try to get us to pay

    Absolutely. The problem dealers on DA are often those whose sales staff are responsible for advertising the trade cars. The dealerships with a dedicated 'trade manager' are usually better - that is until the (usually young) staff member gets his arse kicked cos the dealership have had their brains blown out on the last 10 p/x shitters :D


  3. 16 hours ago, metcars said:

    So, buying from DA is substantially cheaper than Manheim/BCA? Or the cars are superior quality? I don't get it, a PX is a PX isn't it?

    Yes a px is a px but on a web based auction I believe a car should be described to the best of the vendors abilities. The point being discussed here is that some (definitely not all, there are a few very honest appraisers) vendors are clearly not doing the most basic checks (or, more likely, knowing but failing to list them) and even when these glaring faults are pointed out to them they relisted with the original description totally unmodified.

    Lets put it this way;

    1) A Zafira with an alternator light illuminated & the engine running like a bag of shit should be declared in my opinion.

    2) A Focus (shitty 1.6 tdci - I should of known better) with the turbo seals blown out & oil spewed across the engine bay, again in my opinion, should of been declared. I assessed its fault within 2 seconds of opening the bonnet - the fact some lucky blighter is about to win it again on DA based on its unchanged advert says it all about that dealership's scruples.

     


  4. 14 minutes ago, tradex said:

    Maybe we could run a feedback thread on the closed section....one for the mod's maybe? The thing with the bad DA dealers, is that they always to be avoided or carefully bought from at the very least, you won't just buy the one shita from these guys in my experience? 
     

    Sounds sensible to me. 


  5. 22 minutes ago, andymc1973 said:

    manheim own DA

    Not quite. The parent company, Cox Automotive, own both. 

     

    1 hour ago, metcars said:

    They've been lured away by Manheim/BCA. Especially with deals on free collection and storage before sales

    I was talking to a DP at a small family run dealership & asked him why their couple of branches stopped sending them to the block. The answer was the fees (much to my surprise) - I think the big auction houses are chasing their big vendors but his view was that smaller dealers are getting shafted almost as much as the buyers.


  6. 1 hour ago, sparky said:

    Rant away.

     

    I was the winning bidder on a car last week. HPI was all clear, sadly there turned out to be a major discrepancy with VOSA. Quite a big one at that and not the sort of thing you could put down to a fat fingered mechanic. Within two minutes at the most of me ringing in and explaining why I'm backing out it was back on DA with the exact same description, not a mention of any possible mileage discrepancy.

    I'm aware of a garage in Co. Durham reported for the same on a HEAVILY clocked Mondeo estate during its first auction - the auction was allowed to run its course but I guess most buyers must be checking VOSA as it made no money.

    However it reappeared twice more with exactly the same description.

    Another cockle-picking "gentleman of the motor trade", a regular, isn't averse to missing out a few negative points. Once reported he seems to now list those with mileage discrepancies as "MILEAGE NOT WARRANTED" - why not just say there's a mileage discrepancy & stop making himself look like a shyster? However as he also seems to miss a few mechanical problems I suspect the reason is because he actually is a shyster.


  7. Sorry to resurrect an old thread but is it me or are main dealers getting worse?

    I've been on it now for about 3 years & up to a few months ago had only rejected 2 cars, although I have had a few choice words with a couple of dealers. I should add that I'm generally up to a maximum of £3K, and usually much less, so I'm not overly fussy & expect to do a bit of work - work that has been declared!

    The last 3 from Stoke-On-Trent have shown the cloven hoof (I.e. been half-knackered) within 3 miles of leaving, a month ago a Honda dealer took about 15 minutes to dig out a car, I found out why the next day when I went to start it - it took 15 minutes to get it to start :wacko:

    From elsewhere the other week I rejected a Zafira with a few (ahem!) electrical problems & only yesterday went to inspect a Focus, upon opened the bonnet I immediately rejected the car after seeing the turbo has shit itself & spewed oil all over the engine bay. I didn't even bother getting in the car or start it up & the salesman was surprised I didn't want it! 

    HOWEVER, which two cars are currently on there with their original unmodified adverts? Yes you've guessed it. I know it's a trade environment but if I purposely tried to have over a local trader by not declaring faults I've been made aware of then I'd expect to be falling out over the deal.

    Rant over.

     


  8. Got bored doing my day job & I'd always had an interest in cars (that's gone now) so occasionally skived-off work to go to the block.

    The first year I made nowt because as I'd owned new, or nearly new, cars I was prepping everything to death due to my standards. After a year I realised I was giving to much away to the greedy general public (especially after seeing the shite they p/x'd) & decided to sell them in "used" condition. Basically giving the public what they pay for - nothing more, nothing less.

    I enjoy the sourcing of cars & the dealing with nice people who appreciate you don't get gold for the price of silver, however it's the complete & utter pillocks that spoil it for me - I honestly feel like battering some of the cretins & the rise of other traders phoning trying to offload their p/x shitter. If I ever phone another trader I make it clear I'm in the trade, however that courtesy seems to be long gone.


  9. The majority do not read the advert - all they see are the photos & the price.

    Rather oddly though (for people who can't be bothered to read an advert that's there for their benefit) many of them find time to check the MOT history & start quoting advisories from 2 years ago. I guess it's the smart-arse thicko element trying catch out the nasty car dealer. 

     


  10. I put "no text messages" and the midnight text crowd obviously don't understand. I answered a text on Wednesday as I was quiet. A big talker who eventually phoned - he's been coming for over half a week. He lives 300 yds away. What a fucking prick. I won't be answering any more texts!


  11. 14 hours ago, grant8064 said:

    ...well we'll have to think about it and let you know next week.

    ...I am on my hands an knees praying someone else buys it so I can give the news on Tuesday when they wake up. 

    :D Probably the usual greedy weekend tyre-kicking arseholes who always think there's a better deal out there.


  12. 55 minutes ago, GreenGiant said:

    dumped all of their customer problems on the main dealers still in business (that they've spent 2 years screwing over) 

    If the main dealers don't deal with them they won't get screwed by them. However greed rather than taking a long term view will always prevail in this industry.


  13. 5 minutes ago, s and b said:

    its easy getting stock:D

    its getting stock you can sell at a profit is the hard bit:P

    i always look at a car and work out a price sticker in the screen in my head and bid accordingly

    if i buy it i know im in profit this way 

    well nearly

    but you know what i mean

    its so easy to bid too much at the block to impress mates the new tart on your arm etc

    Probably the best advice I've read.


  14. 7 hours ago, tradex said:

    Some good points there for the OP but...

    A chestnut it maybe, but you simply can't run a car sales from home in the proper and correct sense, to get A1 on a unit is hard enough, on a house it wouldn't happen surely?

     I would advise the OP to contact their council for their interpretation for legalities on this point. As eggs is eggs one of his neighbours will the moment he can't park his car where he used to or gets pissed off when 3 customers turn up at once and it looks like what it is.  

    Most ( if not all) doorstep traders simply ignore this point, we all know a house in our neighbourhood that operates like this. The old 'chestnut' of "it's just storage" ain't gonna fool a council planning bod.

    Hi, storage isn't a defence as storage for business purposes would require planning permission IF it made the changes I outlined. Although in a planning sense, storage-only v. sales would be approached differently, as long as your business did not breach any of my points then anyone is fine.

    A trader using the public highway for visitors is a grey area & could be construed as grounds for local authority action. However, if the trader has adequate off-road parking on his property then it shouldn't be a problem.

    Basically, if you've a decent sized property & your stock & visitors park on your property and the stock isn't 'stickered up' this should be fine. Traders operating from a one car driveway with cars scattered around the area would definitely not be fine.

    7 hours ago, tradex said:

    The matter of stock-in-trade being sold and prepared on the premises (cars) isn't within these changes. 

    As a caveat I could be totally wrong but good practice would be to check before one commits.

     

    It depends upon what you mean by preparing cars. Washing a few cars per week is certainly fine as long as you've not materially changed your property in any way. I wouldn't condone major surgery on a knackered old Peugeot in the front garden but, to be honest, it would take a local planning authority years to deal with an idiot cutting up scrap in his front garden & making it look like the local breakers yard.